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Old 12-05-2012, 10:08 PM   #1
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There will be a combine superstar that will emerge as the number 1 it happens every year. Could very easily be Smith...
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:11 PM   #2
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smith did the same thing to oklahoma that RG3 did...he just has the worst d in the country, so they lost

his 4th quarter ass raping of the 8th ranked pass defense in the country should 'wow' anyone who isn't a ****ing dill hole...

his pass from his own endzone, with the pocket collapsing, between 3 defenders, is as clutch and fine a pass as any QB threw this year...if that doesn't 'wow' you then you should off yourself along with black reerun...
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:14 PM   #3
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Barkley is gonna move up the board a bit after the combine. Teams will love him after they interview him.

Don't see him going in the late first with so many QB needy teams. Probably teens.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:16 PM   #4
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When youre the Chiefs there s no such thing as reaching for a QB. The more desperate this team is to get that future elite QB the better if you ask me.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:37 PM   #5
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smith did the same thing to oklahoma that RG3 did...he just has the worst d in the country, so they lost

his 4th quarter ass raping of the 8th ranked pass defense in the country should 'wow' anyone who isn't a ****ing dill hole...

his pass from his own endzone, with the pocket collapsing, between 3 defenders, is as clutch and fine a pass as any QB threw this year...if that doesn't 'wow' you then you should off yourself along with black reerun...
The only criticism I've read of Geno, that actually gives a reason is that he doesn't read defenses. Though, in as many offenses as he's run, he's certainly been asked to do it at some point. He's always done well. Good TD/INT ratio. I'm not nearly as worried as I would be if he'd only run a spread throughout his college career...
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:42 PM   #6
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The only criticism I've read of Geno, that actually gives a reason is that he doesn't read defenses. Though, in as many offenses as he's run, he's certainly been asked to do it at some point. He's always done well. Good TD/INT ratio. I'm not nearly as worried as I would be if he'd only run a spread throughout his college career...
Not calling you out specifically, but this is something alot of people say, but have no idea about.


People think reading defenses consists of "looking at multiple wr's, Rb's Te's, etc, once the ball is snapped"

Which is absolutely crazy talk.

Most offenses have reads based on coverages, which are determined presnap or split second post snap.

Once it's snapped, a QB has one read, then a second, etc. Not often do they get passed the 2nd. IMO, reading defenses isn't a problem with alot of QB's, or atleast isn't the main problem.


It's pocket awareness, or knowing how much time you have in the pocket to go thru multiple reads. Cassel doesn't read defenses well, which is magnified by the fact aht he doesn't have any pocket awareness so he can't make quick reads from the pocket.

Geno has some of the best pocket awareness of any prospect not named Luck. Hell thats one area that he gets pretty close to Luck.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:47 PM   #7
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The only criticism I've read of Geno, that actually gives a reason is that he doesn't read defenses. Though, in as many offenses as he's run, he's certainly been asked to do it at some point. He's always done well. Good TD/INT ratio. I'm not nearly as worried as I would be if he'd only run a spread throughout his college career...
i find it hard to believe you can put up the numbers he did, throwing the amount he did, with only 6 ints, and not 'read defenses'....

i realize he isn't perfect, but unless they're comparing these flaws to some standard, they're rather meaningless evaluations...

is he bad at reading defenses, or bad compared to peyton manning?...
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:15 PM   #8
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I bet Barkey's stock drops after his combine workout.

He'll probably run a 5.1 40 or something shitty.
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I bet Barkey's stock drops after his combine workout.

He'll probably run a 5.1 40 or something shitty.
No , that won't matter.


When he measures in at 6 foot flat and has a busted shoulder still will likely do the trick.
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He'll also do extremely poorly at the not going bald exercise at the combine.
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He'll also do extremely poorly at the not going bald exercise at the combine.
Yes that's clearly his biggest weakness. He'll never go do well because of that.
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ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on Mike & Mike Wednesday morning that USC QB Matt Barkley is viewed around the NFL as a "late first-round pick."
Schefter cited a relatively weak incoming quarterback class as reasons for Alex Smith and Michael Vick to "absolutely" have strong offseason markets. Smith is a trade candidate, while Vick is expected to be released after the Super Bowl. Per Schefter, Heisman finalist Collin Klein is viewed as a "late-round pick," and scouts "aren't completely wowed" by West Virginia QB Geno Smith. Barkley showed underwhelming arm strength as a college senior and was interception prone. We wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the second round



http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7421/matt-barkley
A bit of validation for my push for a trade down to get Geno at value. Frankly, admittedly based on yet incomplete data I would be perfectly happy with either Murray or Wilson at value than drafting Geno at the top of the draft.

This last scenario is gradually becoming my favorite one. Maybe trading the top pick to someone head over heals in love with Jarvis Jones and use the later round one pick or our top 2nd on, say, Murray.
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A bit of validation for my push for a trade down to get Geno at value. Frankly, admittedly based on yet incomplete data I would be perfectly happy with either Murray or Wilson at value than drafting Geno at the top of the draft.

This last scenario is gradually becoming my favorite one. Maybe trading the top pick to someone head over heals in love with Jarvis Jones and use the later round one pick or our top 2nd on, say, Murray.
The moment you trade down is the moment some other franchise with balls takes Geno.
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A bit of validation for my push for a trade down to get Geno at value. Frankly, admittedly based on yet incomplete data I would be perfectly happy with either Murray or Wilson at value than drafting Geno at the top of the draft.

This last scenario is gradually becoming my favorite one. Maybe trading the top pick to someone head over heals in love with Jarvis Jones and use the later round one pick or our top 2nd on, say, Murray.
murray?

wtf?
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I don't get this value shit.

You know whats valuable? A franchise QB.


Those tend to be drafted pretty early in the draft. Why risk trading down and missing out on your guy?

If you like the guy enough to draft him at say 4 or 5, then for **** sake, draft him at 1.
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