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Old 11-17-2013, 11:13 PM  
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The much needed wake-the-****-up slap.

Nobody had @Denver as being a win anyway. It doesn't make the Chiefs any less good for losing @Denver than it does when Denver drops one in KC. Denver and KC are tough places for road reams to play.

With the loss, the Chiefs go to 9-1. However, now it is glaringly obvious just how bad the offense needs improvement, and work, in ALL areas. Playcalling, execution, and decisionmaking.

Andy Reid no longer has the "W" to brush off any criticisms about the offensive performance. This offense is quite honestly, a dumpster fire. When 80% of your passes don't go further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage, that's a fundamental ****ing problem through either scheme, or lack of ability, or both. No offense that has its sights set on a championship runs such a conservative, low production passing attack.

There were shots downfield in this game, yeah. However, they were the first time all season such consistent shots were taken and clearly it is not something that this Chiefs offense is comfortable with, or particularly good at.

This defense is for real. They held an offense that averages 42 points per game to 27, and gave our offense PLENTY of chances to get the lead in this game, including multiple 3 and outs against Manning and also securing a turnover inside the Denver 20 yard line down by only 3 points.

The offense is the weak link. The conservative bullshit has got to go. Its nice to never turn the football over, but it is NOT nice to never score any points. Alex needs to turn it loose, and if he cant produce, move aside.

No risk, no reward. You need look no further than Alex Smith's passing stats, TD/INT in particular to see that.

Reid needs to take a long look in the mirror as a playcaller. He has not done a good job at all this season. Brad Childress has had great success in calling offense in his career in his time with Minnesota, and Doug Pederson is a former Quarterback. Perhaps it is time to give one of these guys a shot and see if the offense doesn't produce a little more, as they would be hard pressed to do worse with an offense that struggles to put up 17 points.


This was as good a time as any for this reality check to happen. How Andy Reid and Alex Smith respond to this will define what this team will ultimately be this season.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:50 PM   #46
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I think we'd feel better if our receivers didn't have hands like feet. Deprived us of one TD for certain when Charles dropped the screen - the Avery one early on too, who knows if we'd have gotten points on that drive as well.

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yup dropped balls continue to be problem.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:50 PM   #47
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:53 PM   #48
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Quarterback. Give us a worthy Quarterback. Stop trying to mask the weakness of this team and has been the weakness of the team for 10+ years. Get us a Quarterback, not just some system guy that Andy Reid thinks he can "work with". Show us your offensive prowess Andy Reid and get us a god damn Quarterback next year. If you sign Alex Smith to an extention, this 9-1 season and what it ends up being means nothing. If we won the Superbowl with Alex Smith, I still wouldn't believe in Alex Smith. Get rid of him, you owe him nothing.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:54 PM   #49
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That doesn't matter.

You understand that, right? Holding Denver down doesn't matter if we don't score over 21.

THE DEFENSE HAD TO CREATE POINTS.

HAD TO.

There was absolutely no chance of winning this game without turnovers, sacks, and winning field position...
Blitzes don't work on QB's who get rid of the ball in 3 seconds, sorry. 24 points is pretty much the best you can hope for against Denver offense in their house. The D did its job.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:54 PM   #50
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....both could've have played better.... Houston Hali and DJ were sparse tonight.

stop telling me when your defense only holds a team to 27 points, you should win.

Sherman fumble was HUGE.
Last I knew, Sherman was on offense?

And don't start throwing out garbage points Denver scored. The defense held them to 17 through the third quarter while the offense shit the bed. Over and over again.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:56 PM   #51
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Last I knew, Sherman was on offense?

And don't start throwing out garbage points Denver scored. The defense held them to a7 through the third quarter while the offense shit the bed. Over and over again.
last i knew I've held both squads accountable.

again. stop telling me when the defense gives up 27 points, you should win.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:57 PM   #52
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Quarterback. Give us a worthy Quarterback. Stop trying to mask the weakness of this team and has been the weakness of the team for 10+ years. Get us a Quarterback, not just some system guy that Andy Reid thinks he can "work with". Show us your offensive prowess Andy Reid and get us a god damn Quarterback next year. If you sign Alex Smith to an extention, this 9-1 season and what it ends up being means nothing. If we won the Superbowl with Alex Smith, I still wouldn't believe in Alex Smith. Get rid of him, you owe him nothing.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:59 PM   #53
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last i knew I've held both squads accountable.

again. stop telling me when the defense gives up 27 points, you should win.
Didn't see you holding the offense accountable, just the defense. Either way, our defense wouldn't have given up 27 (including how many garbage points?!) if the offense could stay on the field.
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last i knew I've held both squads accountable.

again. stop telling me when the defense gives up 27 points, you should win.
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The defense DID THEIR JOB.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:00 AM   #55
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JFC you are an idiot. There defense is 20th, and played our shithole of an offense to 17.
So what?20th isn't dead last you dumb bitch. people were saying this d is one of the best ever. 27 points is not a ****ing success story,what don't you understand?

For all these fools to say 27 points was a mark of success for you coming into this,means you all expected this chiefs offense to score 28 points coming into this game lol. An offense you guys swear is the worst you've ever seen all of a sudden should've been a lock to get 28 now?

offense did about what it has done all year. maybe I just have higher standards for this defense. I thought they could hold them to 20 or less possibly.especially a injured Peyton


And I still think they will in KC, so if they can do it in KC they CAN do it in Denver. Offense under performed as it has all season while showing flashes they could be better. But im not letting the D off the hook.
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Quarterback. Give us a worthy Quarterback. Stop trying to mask the weakness of this team and has been the weakness of the team for 10+ years. Get us a Quarterback, not just some system guy that Andy Reid thinks he can "work with". Show us your offensive prowess Andy Reid and get us a god damn Quarterback next year. If you sign Alex Smith to an extention, this 9-1 season and what it ends up being means nothing. If we won the Superbowl with Alex Smith, I still wouldn't believe in Alex Smith. Get rid of him, you owe him nothing.
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Are there seriously people who say the defense deserves equal blame?

It must be Dumbass Day at the OK Corral
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