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Old 11-21-2013, 06:13 PM   #1
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It's not the other women who ruin it. It's the culture of blaming the victim.
Women who lie about being raped don't cause the credibility of all rape allegations to come into question?
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:39 AM   #2
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Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:09 PM   #3
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Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.
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Old 11-22-2013, 12:01 PM   #4
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Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.
This is enough to cost him the Heisman no doubt! His silence and his denial then change of story speaks its own dialog. Voters will def look at this very hard. Mante Teo's imaginary girlfriend last year was embarrassing enough Jameis may not even be considered a finalist
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Old 11-22-2013, 12:06 PM   #5
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This is enough to cost him the Heisman no doubt! His silence and his denial then change of story speaks its own dialog. Voters will def look at this very hard. Mante Teo's imaginary girlfriend last year was embarrassing enough Jameis may not even be considered a finalist
But the bigger question is if it will deny him a shot in the NFL. His draft stock will drop but unless he's in jail, he'll be on someone's roster.

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Old 11-21-2013, 11:41 AM   #6
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:36 PM   #7
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I guess. They did a rape kit. There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:42 PM   #8
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I guess. They did a rape kit. There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.
Administering a rape kit doesn't necessarily prove a rape occurred.

They're performed if there is an allegation of rape.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:45 PM   #9
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I guess. They did a rape kit. There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.
Well that settles it. He's obviously guilty.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #10
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Well that settles it. He's obviously guilty.
I am not saying he is or isn't. Simply that they wouldn't be pursuing rape charges if the rape kit did not reveal penetration. It could have been consensual. That said, this all looks REALLY bad for Mr. Winston.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #11
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #12
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
She went to the police with it...
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:30 PM   #13
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
Yeah, because that is what every college girl is looking for.....consensually sleep with a guy with the thought he might be famous someday and she can change her mind and yell rape.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:22 PM   #14
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
Um, she did go to the police right away. Did you not read the OP?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:32 PM   #15
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So it happened Dec. 2012? He wasn't on anyones radar at that time, he's a RSF, why cover up for a freshman nobody? The "family" attorney is family, it's her aunt and an UF grad go figure.
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