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jd1020 · 09-25-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

I'm all for getting rid of Daniel. As long as he's there, we'll never know what we have in either Murray or Bray.

Daniel is shit and needed to go about a month ago, but he is not preventing Bray or Murray from seeing the field.

**The Franchise** · 09-25-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

I'm all for getting rid of Daniel. As long as he's there, we'll never know what we have in either Murray or Bray. I agree with your thought about the guards. I'd sure like to see Doc get a shot at starting next season. You are correct about the C position as well.
I'd love to keep DJ if he's able to come back. I think he's a valuable leader on the D and even at 75%, better than any other option we have. The question is going to be at OLB. Houston hasn't shown me that he's worth what he wants and he's likely to shop anyway. Dee Ford may never be ready. Bring Tamba back on a team-friendly deal. I think he wants to finish out in KC.
Jenkins and Avery can go tomorrow. Hemingway is valuable on STs, but I'm not sure what he'd cost. The only reason Bowe hasn't been sent down the road is we have no one else to take his place. Same with S. Smith.

Ummm....dumb.

Lightrise · 09-25-2014, 11:14 AM

I would try to trade Murray, Keep Bray and if you can't trade Murray keep Daniels. I would get Kush in the lineup as soon as we are out of contention, if we are out of contention. Let him play center and move Hudson to LG. Fulton doesn't impress me, have to replace. I can live with Stephenson at RT. Cut Hali and DJ and Ford replaces Hali. Cut Nico Johnson. Let Bailey walk, same with DeVito. Keep Walker, cut Vickerson. Let Howard play and draft a DE. Draft WR's, keep Albert, cut Hemingway, keep Bowe, cut Avery and possibly Hammond (make or break year). Cooper isn't going to make it, have to draft a CB in the first round. Use the abundance of picks to find LB's and 2 $%^$&^%$ guards.

**The Franchise** · 09-25-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightrise

I would try to trade Murray, Keep Bray and if you can't trade Murray keep Daniels. I would get Kush in the lineup as soon as we are out of contention, if we are out of contention. Let him play center and move Hudson to LG. Fulton doesn't impress me, have to replace. I can live with Stephenson at RT. Cut Hali and DJ and Ford replaces Hali. Cut Nico Johnson. Let Bailey walk, same with DeVito. Keep Walker, cut Vickerson. Let Howard play and draft a DE. Draft WR's, keep Albert, cut Hemingway, keep Bowe, cut Avery and possibly Hammond (make or break year). Cooper isn't going to make it, have to draft a CB in the first round. Use the abundance of picks to find LB's and 2 $%^$&^%$ guards.

**Lzen** · 09-25-2014, 01:27 PM

I love Tamba but lets face reality. Ford was drafted to replace Hali and his huge contract.

If DJ only gets $5mil next year then it doesn't make much sense to cut him. I guess if one of the young ILBs really shine this year then you can consider it. I just haven't seen much from those guys so far. Run defense has really struggled due to those guys not maintaining gap responsibilities.

Bowe is not performing anywhere close to his salary. And from what I understand his MJ issue and suspension also voided the guarantee in his contract. So I see no reason to not cut him after this season. Unless he really blows up, of course.

I like Fasano but has that guy ever stayed healthy for a season? Seriously, I'm asking because I don't know. Kelce looks to be the real deal and I would love to see him starting by midseason (or sooner).

**Lzen** · 09-25-2014, 01:30 PM

I feel Abdullah is adequate at FS.

Fulton is a rookie so he's not going to look great this year. Hopefully, he will improve throughout the season and that won't be much of a concern going into next season.

I never thought Jeff Allen was that great at LG until I saw how terrible his replacement is.

I hope Stephenson comes back after the NE game and shores up that spot. He did not look that great in preseason IIRC.

Direckshun · 09-26-2014, 05:34 AM

You guys are high if you think the Chiefs should let Bowe walk.

You need a Bowe on a playoff team. He has the talent, though not the brains and toughness, of a #1 WR. What this team needs is an additional #1 WR to complement him.

The FA class next year is ****ing terrible. The Chiefs shouldn't cut Bowe to be financially reasonable. They can still shore up about $25m in selective cuts without budging on him -- enough to re-sign Hudson, Bailey, Vickerson, and draft well.

The more I see this year's upcoming FA class, the more I hate it. The Chiefs should just avoid, because B level players are going to get paid like A level players, because there will be no A level players.

Sandy Vagina · 09-26-2014, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You guys are high if you think the Chiefs should let Bowe walk.

You need a Bowe on a playoff team. He has the talent, though not the brains and toughness, of a #1 WR. What this team needs is an additional #1 WR to complement him.

It's not about whether Bowe has the talent to be on the roster. It comes down to cap cost versus what he brings to the team. The ability is there.. but the lack of speed.. the lack of effort in route running and attacking the ball.. just can't be paying 14 mil of your cap space in the faint hope that he will play with intensity every game. With what he brings, he should be costing less than half of what he is.

09-25-2014, 11:14 AM	#3
Lightrise Starter Join Date: Dec 2011 Casino cash: $10005085	I would try to trade Murray, Keep Bray and if you can't trade Murray keep Daniels. I would get Kush in the lineup as soon as we are out of contention, if we are out of contention. Let him play center and move Hudson to LG. Fulton doesn't impress me, have to replace. I can live with Stephenson at RT. Cut Hali and DJ and Ford replaces Hali. Cut Nico Johnson. Let Bailey walk, same with DeVito. Keep Walker, cut Vickerson. Let Howard play and draft a DE. Draft WR's, keep Albert, cut Hemingway, keep Bowe, cut Avery and possibly Hammond (make or break year). Cooper isn't going to make it, have to draft a CB in the first round. Use the abundance of picks to find LB's and 2 $%^$&^%$ guards.
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09-25-2014, 01:27 PM	#5
Lzen Banded Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oz Casino cash: $-519308	I love Tamba but lets face reality. Ford was drafted to replace Hali and his huge contract. If DJ only gets $5mil next year then it doesn't make much sense to cut him. I guess if one of the young ILBs really shine this year then you can consider it. I just haven't seen much from those guys so far. Run defense has really struggled due to those guys not maintaining gap responsibilities. Bowe is not performing anywhere close to his salary. And from what I understand his MJ issue and suspension also voided the guarantee in his contract. So I see no reason to not cut him after this season. Unless he really blows up, of course. I like Fasano but has that guy ever stayed healthy for a season? Seriously, I'm asking because I don't know. Kelce looks to be the real deal and I would love to see him starting by midseason (or sooner). __________________ Conversation would be vastly improved by the constant use of four simple words: I do not know.
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09-25-2014, 01:30 PM	#6
Lzen Banded Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oz Casino cash: $-519308	I feel Abdullah is adequate at FS. Fulton is a rookie so he's not going to look great this year. Hopefully, he will improve throughout the season and that won't be much of a concern going into next season. I never thought Jeff Allen was that great at LG until I saw how terrible his replacement is. I hope Stephenson comes back after the NE game and shores up that spot. He did not look that great in preseason IIRC. __________________ Conversation would be vastly improved by the constant use of four simple words: I do not know.
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09-26-2014, 05:34 AM	#7
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2123447	You guys are high if you think the Chiefs should let Bowe walk. You need a Bowe on a playoff team. He has the talent, though not the brains and toughness, of a #1 WR. What this team needs is an additional #1 WR to complement him. The FA class next year is ****ing terrible. The Chiefs shouldn't cut Bowe to be financially reasonable. They can still shore up about $25m in selective cuts without budging on him -- enough to re-sign Hudson, Bailey, Vickerson, and draft well. The more I see this year's upcoming FA class, the more I hate it. The Chiefs should just avoid, because B level players are going to get paid like A level players, because there will be no A level players.
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