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Old 07-21-2015, 01:51 PM  
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Cool F15 dogfight video
I dont know if there has been a modern day jet fighter dogfight since VN but this is apparently what it would look like.
Added plus the music isn't Danger Zone TG.
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:40 PM   #46
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Did you see it on the ground?

My favorite SR-71 'trivia' is the fact that the thing got so hot and the metal expanded so much in flight that the thing leaked fuel like a sieve on the ground because they had to have gaps in every surface area.

I'd have loved to have gotten confirmation of that in person. That would be a pretty bizarre sight to behold.
Never did see it in a hangar. I arrived literally as it was leaving. Heard the same thing about what a nightmare it was to maintain, though.

On a similar note, my second base in Wichita at McConnell (from Okinawa to Wichita, KS. ) housed the B-1 bomber. That thing was a piece of shit on the ground. They had to hook hoses in a number of places to the wings to collect all the hydraulic fluid that would leak/gush out while it was grounded. Everybody hated them, lol.
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:48 PM   #47
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Raptor pilots will swear by their own, but to my eyes the F-15 is the prettiest jet ever made and there's probably not a close 2nd. That thing is what a fighter should be.

By the time it retires it will have 40+ years in active service and will probably have been the best air to air combat platform in the world for every last one of them, with the possible exception of the F-22 but even that is close.
This video sucks, but it shows a Saudi RSAF pilot taking down two Iraqi Mirages in Desert Storm. He is driving an F-15...



And I agree wholeheartedly. The F-15 was a superior air-to-air fighter. The argument could be made that the F-15 was the reason the Russians built the MIG-29
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:21 PM   #48
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Did you know that if you strapped the vulcan cannon from a Warthog to the top of your car, put it in neutral and then laid on the trigger you'd get from 0-60 in about 3 seconds?

https://what-if.xkcd.com/21/

They had to upgrade the engines during testing because the force from the cannon was putting the plane at stall speeds.

I got to fly alongside (and by alongside, I was probably 20 miles out) a couple of A-10 while I was in a Cesna 172 coming into the private airport in Oklahoma City. It was awfully cool even sharing the same sky with those guys. The only thing comparable was when I was driving into Whitman for my JAG interview and they had one of the Spirits landing. It flew right over top of my car as I was coming into the base and with flaps down and being that low in the air, the thing absolutely looked like a hovering alien spacecraft. It was completely surreal. I got to go drive the flight line with the base JAG officer; man it was cool. Earlier in that week someone taxiing one had smashed a wing into the garage and really messed it up. Gotta figure that left a mark on their record...
I had not seen that fact, but I like it. But I do know they can mow some forest..
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:25 PM   #49
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Raptor pilots will swear by their own, but to my eyes the F-15 is the prettiest jet ever made and there's probably not a close 2nd. That thing is what a fighter should be.

By the time it retires it will have 40+ years in active service and will probably have been the best air to air combat platform in the world for every last one of them, with the possible exception of the F-22 but even that is close.
A great debate nobody loses... But I'd throw-out the F-4, F-14, F-16, and FA-18 as something that'll get you plenty of dates for driving...
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:30 PM   #50
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:33 PM   #51
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And I agree wholeheartedly. The F-15 was a superior air-to-air fighter. The argument could be made that the F-15 was the reason the Russians built the MIG-29
The Eagle has a kill ratio of something like 110:0

And the Soviets built the MiG-29 because of the F-16 and F-18. We built the F-15 because of the MiG-25, if memory serves.
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I miss the sound of them idling on the ground and roaring past on takeoff. My favorite fighter, followed closely by the A-10 and F/A-18 Super Hornet.
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The Eagle has a kill ratio of something like 110:0

And the Soviets built the MiG-29 because of the F-16 and F-18. We built the F-15 because of the MiG-25, if memory serves.
I'll defer to your knowledge. After I posted that, I actually thought about the Falcon being the reason for the MIG-29, but wasn't sure (another bad ass fighter in the F-16).

I remember when we first got a look at the F-117. Everybody was in awe of it, then the pilot basically called it a piece of stripped down shit that flew like a trainer, lol.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:41 PM   #54
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I'll defer to your knowledge. After I posted that, I actually thought about the Falcon being the reason for the MIG-29, but wasn't sure (another bad ass fighter in the F-16).

I remember when we first got a look at the F-117. Everybody was in awe of it, then the pilot basically called it a piece of stripped down shit that flew like a trainer, lol.
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sorry...didn't see the "F15" part.
thought this was a bigdaddy thread.
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Col John Boyd, the father of the F15, F16 and to an extent the F18. An incredible man who was influential to three generations of military officers, and at the highest echelons of our government. And you may have never heard of him...

If we had a few more people a little like him, we wouldn't have dogs like the F35.
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Ha! I went in to get away from a chick I was supposed to go to college with (not the ONLY reason, but it was there). Where I ****ed up was not making a career out of it. Never realized how good I had it, especially when I was in Okinawa.

And the Air Force really does (or did) take care of its people.
They definitely take care of their people! My uncle was a fighter pilot stationed in the Philippines (Clark?) through the 80's.

He's an orthopedic surgeon now, and had all his schooling paid for. He's done quite well for himself, and now owns 2 aircraft for his private enjoyment.

He was just in KC in May to go through instruction and training at Garmin headquarters for one of their newer flight decks. I'm not 100% sure, but I think he just upgraded and got a new bird.
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