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Old 02-13-2016, 11:13 AM  
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NFL's Best OLB: Houston vs. Miller
Got into a debate with a Donkey fan regarding this topic earlier this week, but I love it. I think it's one that can be argued both ways, but personally I take a healthy Houston every day over a healthy Miller. Place your vote and make your own case below.

Things to keep in mind:

Justin Houston career numbers:
- 64 starts
-56 sacks (2011: 5.5 in 10 starts, 2012: 10.0 in 16 starts, 2013: 11.0 in 11 starts, 2014: 22.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 7.5 in 10 games)
- 3 interceptions
- 25 passes defensed
- 8 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 safety
- Hasn't been flagged for anything since the 2013 season


Von Miller career numbers:
- 72 starts
- 60 sacks (2011: 11.5 in 15 starts, 2012: 18.5 in 16 starts, 2013: 5.0 in 9 starts, 2014: 14.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 11.0 in 16 starts)
- 1 interception
- 10 passes defensed
- 17 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 touchdown (fumble recovery), 0 safeties
- Consistently penalized, often for personal fouls

For me, considering the numbers..... I still take Houston. Statistically, I can argue he's been better in every phase of the game except for forcing fumbles. Miller does have the playoff success to attribute in his argument, but Houston of course didn't hardly play in this year's playoffs. Regardless, this a fun topic no matter the time of year. So, who do you take?
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Old 02-13-2016, 02:38 PM   #46
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There sure are. I can name you 22 of them.
Whatever. I suppose you think Miller is better by a wide margin.
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Old 02-13-2016, 02:42 PM   #47
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Miller is better. Not by a lot though.
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Old 02-13-2016, 02:53 PM   #48
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Old 02-13-2016, 02:54 PM   #49
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:10 PM   #50
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von miller is used like Derrick Thomas
While we have Houston running around in coverage half the time
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:13 PM   #51
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von miller is used like Derrick Thomas
While we have Houston running around in coverage half the time
Was that the Falcon position? Miller's duties are changed frequently and I can't recall everything that Thomas was asked to do.
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:20 PM   #52
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Whatever. I suppose you think Miller is better by a wide margin.
If Houston was in shape I think he has a chance to be as good as Miller.

Hopefully one day we'll see that again.
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Was that the Falcon position? Miller's duties are changed frequently and I can't recall everything that Thomas was asked to do.
Ya, i think Goonther called it the Falcon.

They moved him around, stacked him,twists ... anything to get him 1-on-1

Houston is either lined up in the flat as OLB or lined up at LDE.

Houston is a very complete player but he would have more impact if we kept him on the LoS and just moved him around alot.
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Objectively Miller is probably the best in the NFL right now. I gagged a little bit typing that sentence btw.

And **** Houston for standing on the side lines in a win or go home game. Much lost respect.
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Was that the Falcon position? Miller's duties are changed frequently and I can't recall everything that Thomas was asked to do.
Ya, i think Goonther called it the Falcon.

They moved him around, stacked him,twists ... anything to get him 1-on-1

Houston is either lined up in the flat as OLB or lined up at LDE.

Houston is a very complete player but he would have more impact if we kept him on the LoS and just moved him around alot.
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Yes..but no on the second part. Houston is easily better.
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Good night lights. Bambi sides with Von...and well he is ALWAYS wrong. Bunch of morons in this thread.
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Houston is easily better.
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Slight edge to Miller. He can take over a game in the way I haven't seen Houston do.....yet
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This is part of the reason why I said a week ago that I hope Houston is heavily motivated by Miller's playoff performance. If Houston can be healthy come playoff time and get us in the dance, and make plays like that, the debate would end for me.
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