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Old 04-18-2016, 06:20 AM  
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Rams Don't Want to Follow KC Football Model

“Do we want to be the Chiefs, Texans or Jets?” That’s a question that bounced around the Rams’ hierarchy over the past three months, as they decided whether to break the bank to move up to No. 1. In other words, three franchises trying to go deep into the playoffs with strong defenses and questionable quarterback situations (though I’d argue Kansas City is better than that, but I’m not the one asking the question). The quest for the quarterback gained momentum as the off-season went on, got very serious at the Ole Miss Pro Day on March 28, and was consummated because it made too much sense for the needs of both teams.

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Old 04-18-2016, 02:53 PM   #46
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I'd argue that formula in a "passing era" is doing it right.

Defenses are built to stop the pass, so in theory the running game heavy teams should have an advantage.
This is a concept that the average football fan cannot appreciate.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:54 PM   #47
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And another point to soothe those hurt feelings...

The Rams happen to be in an extremely unique situation, for 2 reasons.

1. The perfect storm of a QB worth trading up for and a team holding that pick that just drafted their franchise qb the year before. How often does that happen? There's obviously the subjective nature of when a qb prospect is worth it, but the teams that typically have that top pick need a qb. How many times in the last 25 years has there been a qb worthy of #1 overall in the same year that the worst team in the league doesn't need a qb?

2. Being the shiny new toy in town. The Rams are were just handed a fanbase and ticket buyers that don't have the previous 10 years of failure on their mind. When a franchise has just made their fans sit through an Edwards/Haley/Crennel era, it's not as easy to play fast and loose with the product you trot out onto the field. Fans may say "superbowl or bust" on message boards, but they start talking with their wallets and banners in the sky after too many years of "bust". The Rams don't have to worry about that for a number of years.


So yeah, the Rams can talk about how they're going to do it different, but it's not like every team has passed up an opportunity to do it that way.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:57 PM   #48
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Or Russell Wilson game managing his way to a superbowl ring.
Hey! Back off, shithead!
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:01 PM   #49
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Too many of you are focused on your hurt feelings from a perceived slight, while ignoring the point that was being made.

The Rams made a conscious decision this year to build the team around what they feel is a franchise QB. To the degree that they are sacrificing other players (picks) to lay that foundation. That's simply a very different approach than the Chiefs have taken. It's not an insult, it's fact.

As for the chance of success versus falling on their face... there's not much evidence that failing has any negative effects that go beyond what the Chiefs have experienced doing it the safe way. KC has had a pretty stellar run on 1st round picks going all the way back to Tamba Hali. And what did all those picks result in? Varying degrees of success and failure, including the worst season in franchise history. Even the success the team has had in the last 3 years has to be partially credited to finally getting a qb.

The Rams just came out and said they believe draft picks and/or good players aren't worth much without a franchise qb. KC is a perfect example of that reality.
This is a good post. Bunch of weak ass bitches in here getting their feelings hurt for no reason..

But I will say it was kind of odd for them to say this in the first place. They've poured a ton of resources into defense, OL and RB in recent years. Although they're now aggressively trying to get a stud under center, they're not too different from us circa 2012.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:02 PM   #50
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Going back to the 1993 season and onward the Redskins have one fewer playoff win than KC and is worse on overall win and loss.

Or how about this: Since the beginning of the 2011 season, KC has nine extra regular seasons wins and one playoff victory in an extra playoff game over the 'skins even though Washington had the worst possible outcome in RG3 failing after they sold the farm to draft him.
Some people equate drafting a qb to success and signing a fa qb to failure
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:07 PM   #51
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Some people equate drafting a qb to success and signing a fa qb to failure
Some people think taking a chance on drafting a qb is too risky. Washington is a great example of how wrong that is. They gave up too much to get a guy that busted, and they're still no worse off for it than the "play it safe" Chiefs.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:13 PM   #52
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:26 PM   #53
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If the Rams are run by draft tabulators, their franchise will go nowhere.

Maybe Vernon Gholston, Geno Smith, and Taylor Mays will find new homes there.
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If the Rams are run by draft tabulators, their franchise will go nowhere.

Maybe Vernon Gholston, Geno Smith, and Taylor Mays will find new homes there.
They've been run by True Fans since Mike Martz left.
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:14 PM   #55
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I don't wanna follow the Rams model. They haven't been relevant since Warner was there
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I don't wanna follow the Rams model. They haven't been relevant since Warner was there
Len Dawson says hi.
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I don't wanna follow the Rams model. They haven't been relevant since Warner was there
If Vermeil had stayed there and kept Martz in check, the Bulger years could've been very good IMO... Marc had a very accurate whip arm

Faulk, Bruce, Holt and Pace all still had a decent year or three left during the Bulger (just go with it) Era... Martz killed them with his ego
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Dawson combined with Blackledge are the two biggest reasons KC never tries to acquire and develop a highly sought after QB in the draft.
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:16 PM   #59
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I wonder who the next "established vet" will be? Didn't I read not too long ago in some fluff piece about a freshly drafted ( by another team ) QB that he had a hidden boner for?

Damn, who was that?
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