Chiefs Chiefs open as 1 point dogs - Page 4

**Nzoner** · 01-08-2017, 09:03 PM

It's now at Chiefs -1 the over/under 46.5

http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20170115.html

**HemiEd** · 01-09-2017, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Not trying to be difficult but your own OP says Chiefs -1 , which is a FAVORITE.

All the other sports books have them like your post as FAVs

Geezus, do you not get it? He updated it!

JD10367 · 01-09-2017, 08:05 AM

KC has a better record, is playing at home, has a great home field advantage, and doesn't have an injured QB... and they're underdogs? Given a FG for home field, I'd say Arrowhead is worth an extra point. So if you think the teams are even, it should still be KC -4. I think KC is better so it should be -5 or -6, because KC will win between a FG and TD.

scho63 · 01-09-2017, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Geezus, do you not get it? He updated it!

Thank you for calling me Geezus but when I look at his OP, I see NO system edit update at the bottom of his post that indicates it was ever edited.

So in the famous words of Steve Martin, "WELL EXCUUUUUUSSSE ME!"

KCCHIEFS27 · 01-09-2017, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

KC has a better record, is playing at home, has a great home field advantage, and doesn't have an injured QB... and they're underdogs? Given a FG for home field, I'd say Arrowhead is worth an extra point. So if you think the teams are even, it should still be KC -4. I think KC is better so it should be -5 or -6, because KC will win between a FG and TD.

Then you need to go ahead and put down a lot of money on the Chiefs.

splatbass · 01-09-2017, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

I'm sure odds makers know about our playoff record...

The odds makers will base it on how much money is bet on each side. To keep it as even as possible they will move the line if there is too much money bet on one side to encourage people to bet the other way. Past playoff records don't play into it.

chinaski · 01-09-2017, 08:57 AM

I'm gonna point something out regarding Ben Roesthlisberger's ankle injury, because there was speculation in the other threads that it was a sham because he was seen walking and running on it after the game...

I've sprained my ankle (mildly) a few times, and immediately after the injury it's generally not too bad. You can walk on it etc. It's until several hours AFTER the injury where things start to get bad. Last time I did it, I was able to walk without much trouble, but the next day, HOLY SHIT. I was hobbled up and could barely stand on it.

Just Sayin...

**TribalElder** · 01-09-2017, 09:02 AM

Hoping for more than a first round well bye....

Advance please

**YayMike** · 01-09-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

I'm gonna point something out regarding Ben Roesthlisberger's ankle injury, because there was speculation in the other threads that it was a sham because he was seen walking and running on it after the game...

I've sprained my ankle (mildly) a few times, and immediately after the injury it's generally not too bad. You can walk on it etc. It's until several hours AFTER the injury where things start to get bad. Last time I did it, I was able to walk without much trouble, but the next day, HOLY SHIT. I was hobbled up and could barely stand on it.

Just Sayin...

This. I had a grade one sprain after a soccer game, and this describes it perfectly.

That being said, he'll play and that asshole normally plays better hobbled anyway. It will be interesting to hear how he is doing on Thursday after the initial swelling goes down....

chinaski · 01-09-2017, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike

This. I had a grade one sprain after a soccer game, and this describes it perfectly.

That being said, he'll play and that asshole normally plays better hobbled anyway. It will be interesting to hear how he is doing on Thursday after the initial swelling goes down....

Yup, it's also a lot easier to re-tweek even after the swelling has gone away and things are feeling better. Slightest off movement and BOOM, you get that twinge and you are screwed up again.

kcchiefsus · 01-09-2017, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Ben will play and the officials will let Pitt's O-Line hold like a mother f'er all game to keep the franchise QB upright. TV ratings want a Big Ben vs. Tom Brady to advertise all week. If we're going to win, we have to make multiple big plays and hope the flags don't fly for mysterious holding calls when we do.

I'm 45 and NEVER seen my Chiefs in the Superbowl. My dad has stage 4 cancer and his time on this Earth isn't guaranteed next season. We're overdue as fans, and time is running out to celebrate a win with my dad. If there's ever a time for this squad to overachieve, THIS is the time.

Maybe if the ****s who run the Chiefs would ever actually draft a QB and take a chance on finding a superstar we might finally find a guy who gets preferential treatment. Instead we're stuck with a piece of shit like Smith who nobody around the league cares about.

**YayMike** · 01-09-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chinaski

Yup, it's also a lot easier to re-tweek even after the swelling has gone away and things are feeling better. Slightest off movement and BOOM, you get that twinge and you are screwed up again.

exactly. and add to that the field at arrowhead will be frozen, which won't help.

Now, that being said, forget him - contain Bell and force Ben to have to throw. I think blitzing him will cause us to get burnt. I think we can get a good enough pass rush with 4 even 5 on obvious passing situations. Just CONTAIN BELL for the love of God.

chinaski · 01-09-2017, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by YayMike

exactly. and add to that the field at arrowhead will be frozen, which won't help.

Now, that being said, forget him - contain Bell and force Ben to have to throw. I think blitzing him will cause us to get burnt. I think we can get a good enough pass rush with 4 even 5 on obvious passing situations. Just CONTAIN BELL for the love of God.

Yeah. If we can shut down Bell and force a passing game, we can kill these guys with our pass rush and secondary. Ben isn't perfect, he is prone to mistakes, certainly if we can rattle him with Houston, Ford and Hali.

I was watching Bell yesterday, and there is a definite delay where he looks for a hole after the hand off. I don't think he will get away with that, as much, with our guys.

**Nzoner** · 01-09-2017, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Thank you for calling me Geezus but when I look at his OP, I see NO system edit update at the bottom of his post that indicates it was ever edited.

So in the famous words of Steve Martin, "WELL EXCUUUUUUSSSE ME!"

I never edited my original post because if you click my link you will see KC opened on Scores and Odds as a 1 point dog thus the reason my thread title said as much.

KChiefs1 · 01-09-2017, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

It moved 3.5 points in hours.

If only one were near a book, he could have both sides covered with a large window to hit both.

That's a lot of movement.

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CupidStunt · 01-09-2017, 11:08 AM

The public is going to ****ing pound the Steelers.

They see Big Ben vs Alex Smith. They see franchise QB vs smoke and mirrors. They see recent home losses to Tennessee and Tampa. They see decades of playoff failure vs recent multiple-time Super Bowl Champions.

It could be one of those games where Vegas gets either REALLY hammered, or makes huge profit. They're not gonna move the line to the point that KC is like a 4-5-6 point home dog, even if the money keeps pounding in on PIT. So either bettors will get it right and the Steelers come in and win as expected, causing Vegas to suffer, OR KC shows up and spoils the party.

Here's hoping it's the latter! As a Chiefs fan it's tempting to bet on PIT. But as a generally sharp bettor, I could actually see some value in a 12-win home playoff underdog if it gets to 3+. So in other words not betting would be best ... which is almost always the case. Heh.

01-08-2017, 09:03 PM
Nzoner a haw haw haw Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU Casino cash: $26365802	Chiefs open as 1 point dogs It's now at Chiefs -1 the over/under 46.5 http://www.scoresandodds.com/grid_20170115.html
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01-09-2017, 08:05 AM	#47
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	KC has a better record, is playing at home, has a great home field advantage, and doesn't have an injured QB... and they're underdogs? Given a FG for home field, I'd say Arrowhead is worth an extra point. So if you think the teams are even, it should still be KC -4. I think KC is better so it should be -5 or -6, because KC will win between a FG and TD.
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01-09-2017, 08:57 AM	#51
chinaski Veteran Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: He/Him Casino cash: $8739922	I'm gonna point something out regarding Ben Roesthlisberger's ankle injury, because there was speculation in the other threads that it was a sham because he was seen walking and running on it after the game... I've sprained my ankle (mildly) a few times, and immediately after the injury it's generally not too bad. You can walk on it etc. It's until several hours AFTER the injury where things start to get bad. Last time I did it, I was able to walk without much trouble, but the next day, HOLY SHIT. I was hobbled up and could barely stand on it. Just Sayin...
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TribalElder Arrowhead Trail of Tears Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: KansasCity Casino cash: $1930441	Hoping for more than a first round well bye.... Advance please
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01-09-2017, 11:08 AM	#60
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $2033332	The public is going to ****ing pound the Steelers. They see Big Ben vs Alex Smith. They see franchise QB vs smoke and mirrors. They see recent home losses to Tennessee and Tampa. They see decades of playoff failure vs recent multiple-time Super Bowl Champions. It could be one of those games where Vegas gets either REALLY hammered, or makes huge profit. They're not gonna move the line to the point that KC is like a 4-5-6 point home dog, even if the money keeps pounding in on PIT. So either bettors will get it right and the Steelers come in and win as expected, causing Vegas to suffer, OR KC shows up and spoils the party. Here's hoping it's the latter! As a Chiefs fan it's tempting to bet on PIT. But as a generally sharp bettor, I could actually see some value in a 12-win home playoff underdog if it gets to 3+. So in other words not betting would be best ... which is almost always the case. Heh.
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