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Old 01-03-2022, 10:52 AM  
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Tyreek: At what point do we point blame for the game and season

I know you guys want to blame the refs, The 3rd & 27 call, Spags and the defense as a whole.

However, if Tyreek catches that ball right before the half, this game is out of reach. Before someone says, "he got it hit out of his hands"... do you think Chase or Higgins would've dropped that pass yesterday? They're purely hand catching WRs.

Tyreek has always been a body catcher and it's been a 50/50 shot if it hits his hands. Him and Kelce are a HUGE reason for us going 3-4 to start the season as they're DEFINITELY fuel to the early season turnover machine we've become.

I surely hope he works on catching with his hands such as the greats (D. Hopkins comes to mind). Once he does that, he'll definitely be THE top WR in the league. Right now, he seems more like an athlete that's playing WR. Not a true WR.

https://youtu.be/kU6yIpghmLU?t=483

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Old 01-03-2022, 12:16 PM   #46
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Old 01-03-2022, 12:52 PM   #47
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He's had some bad drops this year but that wasn't one of them. Sure, he could have secured it better, but it was punched out by the DB. Can't be too upset about it.
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I know you guys want to blame the refs, The 3rd & 27 call, Spags and the defense as a whole.

However, if Tyreek catches that ball right before the half, this game is out of reach. Before someone says, "he got it hit out of his hands"... do you think Chase or Higgins would've dropped that pass yesterday? They're purely hand catching WRs.

Tyreek has always been a body catcher and it's been a 50/50 shot if it hits his hands. Him and Kelce are a HUGE reason for us going 3-4 to start the season as they're DEFINITELY fuel to the early season turnover machine we've become.

I surely hope he works on catching with his hands such as the greats (D. Hopkins comes to mind). Once he does that, he'll definitely be THE top WR in the league. Right now, he seems more like an athlete that's playing WR. Not a true WR.

https://youtu.be/kU6yIpghmLU?t=483
Go back and look at his catch against the Chargers two weeks ago. It was all hands.
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Old 01-03-2022, 01:27 PM   #50
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Romo pointed out on the broadcast that Hill and Chase had the same number of drops this season.

The offense only had the ball 3 times in the second half, and the refs ****ed us on 2 of the drives....we got a FG on the third.

Tough loss due to a number of factors, but this thread is a bit silly. We are not winning a Super Bowl without Reek.
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I'm just going to say this is one of the stupidest threads on here in awhile. Have you considered a lobotomy to increase your intelligence? Cuz you're a god damn reerun.
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Old 01-03-2022, 02:57 PM   #52
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I still can't believe that call.

One of the worst play calls offense or defense I've ever seen.
I think I understand why he did it.

So a FG puts us in a bit of a bind. Now if you'd have left it up to me, I go ahead and play back and play for the FG. But I didn't think for a single second that the Bengals would even TRY to get it downfield. And I don't think many did.

So Spags tried to stuff the middle, prevent a completion of any sort and keep that FG at a 57 yardish attempt. At that point the Bengals have a tough kick and if they miss it, the Chiefs are about 20 yards away from FG range of their own.

It was a very 'on-brand' call for Spags. It was aggressive and it bit him in the ass. I just don't think Spags or most anyone else figured the Bengals would even dial up a vertical route there. That had all the look in the world of a 15 yard dump over the middle to set up an easier FG.

The Bengals out-aggressived us and it paid off for them. And it STILL took a hellacious throw/catch for the play to succeed.

I think I'll just acknowledge what Spags was probably thinking, tip my cap to the Bengals there and move along. The other guys get paid to play, too...
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Old 01-03-2022, 03:04 PM   #53
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I think I understand why he did it.

So a FG puts us in a bit of a bind. Now if you'd have left it up to me, I go ahead and play back and play for the FG. But I didn't think for a single second that the Bengals would even TRY to get it downfield. And I don't think many did.

So Spags tried to stuff the middle, prevent a completion of any sort and keep that FG at a 57 yardish attempt. At that point the Bengals have a tough kick and if they miss it, the Chiefs are about 20 yards away from FG range of their own.

It was a very 'on-brand' call for Spags. It was aggressive and it bit him in the ass. I just don't think Spags or most anyone else figured the Bengals would even dial up a vertical route there. That had all the look in the world of a 15 yard dump over the middle to set up an easier FG.

The Bengals out-aggressived us and it paid off for them. And it STILL took a hellacious throw/catch for the play to succeed.

I think I'll just acknowledge what Spags was probably thinking, tip my cap to the Bengals there and move along. The other guys get paid to play, too...
He dialed up a very similar blitz on a 3rd and 15 late against the Chargers. The only difference was that Herbert felt the heat and overthrew his man by about 10 yards. That worked to perfection, though, kept the Chargers out of FG range and they never saw the ball again.

I still hate the call in that moment, we had timeouts and plenty of time for Patrick to take the lead with 6 or tie it up with a field goal, but that aggression paid off very recently. Unfortunately, it seemed like Burrow and Chase could be made of different mettle than Herbert/Allen. I was super impressed watching Burrow throughout that game.
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He's had the Dwaye Bowe-itis this yr that's for sure.

And many times his butterfingers result in a INT.

He's still a great WR, but it's been a problem this yr, and has probably cost the Chiefs a game or 2 because of it.
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He dialed up a very similar blitz on a 3rd and 15 late against the Chargers. The only difference was that Herbert felt the heat and overthrew his man by about 10 yards. That worked to perfection, though, kept the Chargers out of FG range and they never saw the ball again.

I still hate the call in that moment, we had timeouts and plenty of time for Patrick to take the lead with 6 or tie it up with a field goal, but that aggression paid off very recently. Unfortunately, it seemed like Burrow and Chase could be made of different mettle than Herbert/Allen. I was super impressed watching Burrow throughout that game.
I don't disagree with you - it's not what I'd have done. I'd give up the FG and play the boundaries to take even the risk of a TD off the board.

As you noted - we have PM. And in a 4 down situation w/ 3 timeouts I still think he's damn near unstoppable in a gotta have it drive.

But I do think that was the logic behind it and it wasn't entirely unreasonable.
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Also fans who get weird about dropped passes amuse me.

You take somebody of Tyreek’s talent and go, “These dropped passes are inexcusable!” as if Tyreek dropped passes and all isn’t still a top 5 WR in the NFL. You’d really take somebody less talented who just “catches the damn ball,” eh?

Hunter Rentfrow is a great hands catcher, let me tell you. And he he’s still decently good, too. Would you trade Tyreek for Rentfrow straight up?

Because I’m pretty sure a well mannered guy like Patrick Mahomes would even call you a ****ing reerun
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