A quick note about the Chiefs' coaching and intelligence

[Rain Man]

I watch other games, and I shake my head.

You see coaches not being able to get plays called in. Players lining up in the wrong spot. Players running out of bounds when they should stay in bounds, or staying in bounds when they should have run out of bounds. Players who don't know the game situation and celebrate a first down when they need to be lining up in a hurry up. Snapping the ball at the wrong time.

We never see players or coaches botching up stuff like that. We call plays with enough time to snow globe. We see Kelce and Mahomes designing plays with 13 seconds left because they see some gap in the defense. We see offensive linemen running downfield to call time outs when the clock situation is dire. Patrick Mahomes II knows every rule, down and distance, and clock situation there is.

I love how intelligent this team is from top to bottom, and how the coaches train the team so well.

[irafreak]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I would HATE to be in charge of that stuff. You've got to choose a good play within 1-2? seconds of the last one ending and then do literally everything else. Chiefs are amazing at it.

(If we aren't, though, it's clearly EB's fault.)

I imagine it's a lot like a chess player playing for so long they know the moves and counter moves and are already thinking 5, 10, 20 steps ahead.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons

I tried multiple approaches to solve the riddle:
First I tried to recall if anywhere in my past I had come across these words. While having a near eidetic memory, I must admit, this approach failed me.
Then I tried a self-hypnotic regression to see if I could possibly retrieve a blocked or regressed memory. This also produced no joy.
Feeling desperate, I tried to tap the Akashic plane and access all cosmic knowledge and data in the universe. However, I again could not solve the riddle.
Then, in a stroke of inspiration I realized I just Google "Beans, said Homer" and cut/paste the results into my response. This approach worked for me.
It's a fairly obscure reference, how did you come to know it by heart?

"vBulletin Message
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Peter Gibbons again."

It was my favorite book mom used to read to me. I am not certain why. Maybe it was a 4 year old horndog that wanted to bang Lolly, Molly, Polly, and Dolly.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by the steam

Agree with OP, our players seem to know the situation much better than other teams. But do they really deserve a medal for doing their job? Any player in the NFL has been playing football since they were about 7 years old and knowing what to do in specific situations is quite literally their job. A job they are paid very well to do. Their is absolutely no reason for any player on any team not to know what is going on.

With these guys it is THEIR JOB to know where you are supposed to line up, what blitzers to pick up, not to jump offsides on 3rd and 3, to get plays in in a timely manner, to know all the audibles, when to field or not to touch a punted ball, etc.

These guys will make bonehead mistakes as long as the owners don't hold players and coaches accountable. Did Dee Ford ever play another game for us after his horrible mental error? I don't think he did and rightly so.

Obviously you haven't watched too many teams outside of the Chiefs, because screwing up procedures is pretty common by most other teams.

Take DAL last year in the playoffs. Coached by SB-winner Mike McCarthy they couldn't run one play in under 18 seconds. MIA couldn't run a 2-minute offense without calling 3 TOs.

And that's just the most visible procedural gaffes I can think of in recent memory.

Hell, how many times during PT games just this season have we watched NFL teams unable to get through a single 2-minute series or just run no-huddle without taking at least one procedural flag.

But the Chiefs rarely have those issues. And you've become so accustomed to our units running things smoothly, that you now think that it's easy and everyone should be able to do it.

Lolz, just go back and watch any PT game, even playoff games in recent history and watch teams eff shit up that you think is so easy.

It's eye-opening, bud

[the steam]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

And you've become so accustomed to our units running things smoothly, that you now think that it's easy and everyone should be able to do it.

Lolz, just go back and watch any PT game, even playoff games in recent history and watch teams eff shit up that you think is so easy.

It's eye-opening, bud

Yes a professional football player or coach should know what to do in every situation. IT IS THEIR JOB!!!! They have all been playing football their whole life and now they are getting paid quite well to play or coach football so yes it should be 2nd nature to them and there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to get plays in in a timely manner or fielding a punt at your own 5 yard line,etc. These guys only job in life is to succeed on the football field so yes knowing things like when to go OB and when to stay in bounds should be easy for someone who makes their living playing football

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by the steam

Yes a professional football player or coach should know what to do in every situation. IT IS THEIR JOB!!!! They have all been playing football their whole life and now they are getting paid quite well to play or coach football so yes it should be 2nd nature to them and there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to get plays in in a timely manner or fielding a punt at your own 5 yard line,etc. These guys only job in life is to succeed on the football field so yes knowing things like when to go OB and when to stay in bounds should be easy for someone who makes their living playing football

Lol, okay.

Here's the NFL rulebook. You have a week to have this memorized front to back, word perfect. I'll hit you with half a dozen questions that are situationally specific, you'll have 10 seconds to give me the correct answer.
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules.../#pdf-download

[MagicHef]

Speaking of situational awareness, the Bengals’ endgame against the Bills was nearly perfect, running out every possible second and they even had a great coffin-corner punt.

[the steam]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, okay.

Here's the NFL rulebook. You have a week to have this memorized front to back, word perfect. I'll hit you with half a dozen questions that are situationally specific, you'll have 10 seconds to give me the correct answer.
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules.../#pdf-download

Don't get what point you are trying to make. Who said anything about the rulebook? Are you saying it's acceptable for a NFL player to not know where he's supposed to be lined up? What blitzer he is supposed to pick up? What packages he's supposed to be on/off the field? When he is supposed to get out or stay in bounds? What man he is responsible to cover? You think knowing these things is difficult? They practice this day in day out for years. These mental errors should never happen especially in crucial situations.

If your opponent is punting on 4th and 3 late in the game you don't think every player on the return team should know "If I go offsides or rough the kicker we lose the game." ? It is literally their job to know this and you think it's acceptable to not be aware of things like this?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by the steam

Don't get what point you are trying to make. Who said anything about the rulebook? Are you saying it's acceptable for a NFL player to not know where he's supposed to be lined up? What blitzer he is supposed to pick up? What packages he's supposed to be on/off the field? When he is supposed to get out or stay in bounds? What man he is responsible to cover? You think knowing these things is difficult? They practice this day in day out for years. These mental errors should never happen especially in crucial situations.

If your opponent is punting on 4th and 3 late in the game you don't think every player on the return team should know "If I go offsides or rough the kicker we lose the game." ? It is literally their job to know this and you think it's acceptable to not be aware of things like this?

lolz, so tap out on the mental agility test. Got it.

i'm saying there's ton of things to remember, and a ton of things going on very quickly. It's pretty easy to make mistakes when you're in a time crunch and there's a ton of distractions.

And in case you haven't noticed, players and coaches eff up all that shit you listed there, every week. We're watching a couple teams screw it up repeatedly right now.

What Andy and his staff do to coach these players up to the point that they can do what they do pretty much error-free is exceptional. And we know it's exceptional because most teams can't do it.

[the steam]

Reminds me of Chris Rock saying some people will brag about things they are supposed to do. "I pay my child support." "I've never been in jail." You're SUPPOSTED to pay your child support!! You aren't SUPPOSED to be in jail!!!

I kind of understand things like Leon Lett not knowing he couldn't touch the blocked FG because it was in a very rare situation but if you play football for a living you are SUPPOSED to know where to line up at!! You are SUPPOSED to know when to run out or stay in bounds!!! If you are an OC being paid millions of dollars you're SUPPOSED to get the plays in on time!!! Not very difficult

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by the steam

Reminds me of Chris Rock saying some people will brag about things they are supposed to do. "I pay my child support." "I've never been in jail." You're SUPPOSTED to pay your child support!! You aren't SUPPOSED to be in jail!!!

I kind of understand things like Leon Lett not knowing he couldn't touch the blocked FG because it was in a very rare situation but if you play football for a living you are SUPPOSED to know where to line up at!! You are SUPPOSED to know when to run out or stay in bounds!!! If you are an OC being paid millions of dollars you're SUPPOSED to get the plays in on time!!! Not very difficult

Lolz, okay. I shouldn't believe my lying eyes. thanks for the wisdom.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

lolz, so tap out on the mental agility test. Got it.

i'm saying there's ton of things to remember, and a ton of things going on very quickly. It's pretty easy to make mistakes when you're in a time crunch and there's a ton of distractions.

And in case you haven't noticed, players and coaches eff up all that shit you listed there, every week. We're watching a couple teams screw it up repeatedly right now.

What Andy and his staff do to coach these players up to the point that they can do what they do pretty much error-free is exceptional. And we know it's exceptional because most teams can't do it.

Yes, that is the point, and they should know most of the rules. I played through college, coached, and have actively watched 1000's of games over my life and know most of the rules and situations. I have a fraction of the experience an NFL head coach has... and there is no excuse for many of these poor decisions.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I watch other games, and I shake my head.

You see coaches not being able to get plays called in. Players lining up in the wrong spot. Players running out of bounds when they should stay in bounds, or staying in bounds when they should have run out of bounds. Players who don't know the game situation and celebrate a first down when they need to be lining up in a hurry up. Snapping the ball at the wrong time.

We never see players or coaches botching up stuff like that. We call plays with enough time to snow globe. We see Kelce and Mahomes designing plays with 13 seconds left because they see some gap in the defense. We see offensive linemen running downfield to call time outs when the clock situation is dire. Patrick Mahomes II knows every rule, down and distance, and clock situation there is.

I love how intelligent this team is from top to bottom, and how the coaches train the team so well.

Impossible.

Everyone knows Andy Reid is terrible at clock management because Philly fans and bloggers said so.

[the steam]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lolz, okay. I shouldn't believe my lying eyes. thanks for the wisdom.

I'm not saying other teams don't make horrendous mental errors, I completely agree with you. I'm saying it's completely unacceptable if you have been playing football your whole life, you are getting paid to play football and your livelihood depends on knowing these simple things.

LOL!!! Elijah Mitchell just could have ended the game staying in bounds but ran out!!! JFC These guys are dumb!!!

[Rain Man]

49ers dude didn't know to go down in bounds at this point of the game. Chiefs players know what to do in that situation.

[the steam]

Then the Dallas punt returner fair catch at the 5!! WTF!!!! I think you have a point