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Old 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM  
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Let's talk about the ****ing Bills.

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:
  • The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
  • He is still Kyle Orton.
That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:19 PM   #631
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I think this is a game the defense needs to take over because we will struggle to move the ball on them.

I REALLY don't like the matchup of our OL VS their DL. I can see us getting dominated.

I don't like our receivers vs their secondary, either.

Gonna be tough to run or pass.

We need our front 7 to turn the heat up and destroy Orton for us to have a good shot at winning..and I think that it's possible the defense scores more that the offense in this one...including turnovers in field goal range and turnovers that get returned to the house.

I can see a game here where our defense scores 2 tds and the offense scores 10.

Special teams are also gonna be a huge factor. We need to pin them back when we punt and we need to hit all of our field hoals.

Not much margin to work with.
I agree that this will be an incredibly tough game. I'm not really sure why people here think we're going to obliterate the Bills. I don's know where people got the idea that our offense was a bunch of world-beaters just because we put up pedestrian points on terrible teams like the Jets and Rams.

The Bills have a legit defense all the way around. This Chiefs team isn't just going to show up at the game and score 30+ on them. I'll be happy if they put up 20. That said, I think the Chiefs win this game because the Bills offense is entirely one-dimensional.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:21 PM   #632
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:29 PM   #633
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:31 PM   #634
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Yah super fan! I bet you can't wait!
He has a HardOrton ready to explode.
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He has a HardOrton ready to explode.
He hates retreads, "alledgedly" but is sucking the dick of a journeyman loser who couldn't wait to get out of Kansas City.

Logic.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:37 PM   #636
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He hates retreads, "alledgedly" but is sucking the dick of a journeyman loser who couldn't wait to get out of Kansas City.

Logic.
I would hate Orton too if we had committed an absurd amount of money to him.
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Oh. Cause I thought you hated alex last season. Before they committed money to him. I misunderstood you. We can be friends now.
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Oh. Cause I thought you hated alex last season. Before they committed money to him. I misunderstood you. We can be friends now.
Not that I want to get involved in the argument, but it was obvious they were going to commit money to Alex. You don't give away two second rounders for a guy and then let him walk two years later.
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Not that I want to get involved in the argument, but it was obvious they were going to commit money to Alex. You don't give away two second rounders for a guy and then let him walk two years later.
You really are ruining my fun dammit.
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Not that I want to get involved in the argument, but it was obvious they were going to commit money to Alex. You don't give away two second rounders for a guy and then let him walk two years later.
Unless you have a young QB who's ready to go, which the Chiefs probably never will.
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You really are ruining my fun dammit.
Meh...you're still correct in a sense. He's gonna be miserable regardless.


Edit: I take that back. Inmem is more miserable. I think Clay actually enjoys his current role.
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Totally agree!
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The only thing I have to contribute to this discussion is that it's getting old playing Buffalo every damn year.
Wanna know something really funny? If the standings continue like they are, we'll be playing them again next year. (could be Miami, but definitely one of the two)
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