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Old 08-26-2006, 12:15 PM  
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5 things to keep in mind during tonight’s preseason game

DAVID EULITT | THE KANSAS CITY STAR

Are things really as bad as they looked last week?

Herm Edwards says no. After five years with the Jets, he’s discovered that there generally is no correlation between a winning preseason and a successful regular season. But Edwards understands how fans might panic after being shut out at New York, and he came close to promising that the Chiefs will look considerably better tonight. “I don’t panic,” he said. “I’ve done this for too long. If we weren’t practicing well and we weren’t doing the things that I see in practice, I’d be a little bit concerned.”

How much can Tamba Hali help?

Depends on how vanilla Edwards keeps the defense. The Chiefs played just two coverages against Houston and played one coverage 80 percent against the Giants. First-round pick Hali could finally help Kansas City put some heat on the quarterback, something that has been virtually nonexistent so far.

Will the real Chiefs offense please stand up?

After two preseason games, Edwards still hasn’t seen the high-flying offense that finished first in the NFL in 2004 and 2005. The first unit has accounted for just one touchdown, and the only thing that has really impressed Edwards was a 13-play, 71-yard touchdown drive in the first game against the Texans. With left guard Brian Waters back, and the starters playing longer, maybe things will change tonight.

Is everybody being too hard on Ryan Sims?

The former first-round draft pick had an animated conversation with Edwards this week after practice. Sims wanted to know where he stood, and he hopes it’s not with both feet pressed against the sideline. For at least two preseasons, Sims has believed that he’s ready to prove his detractors wrong. Tonight could be his first step.

Is Brodie Croyle the Chiefs’ QB of the future?

You won’t find that out tonight, but maybe the third-round pick from Alabama can do something that a backup quarterback in Kansas City hasn’t done in a while: successfully move the chains. This is Croyle’s first taste of the NFL after a shoulder injury in camp, and it will be interesting to see how he handles it.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:02 PM   #721
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Last time I checked, Herm isn't Marty. Plus, it's not like Vermeil's "strategy" was highly successful either.
Yeah, Vermeil never accomplished anything as a coach.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:03 PM   #722
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:05 PM   #724
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Yeah, Vermeil never accomplished anything as a coach.
Assuming this is sarcasm, then who gives a rat's ass what he did before he took over in KC.

He accomplished exactly Jack in KC.
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"That Bernard Pollard....jeez...he just...*sniffle*...CRUSHED HIM!"
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Hali is already being given authority to call where the D-line stunts are going. He's the quarterback of the D-line. WOW.
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Assuming this is sarcasm, then who gives a rat's ass what he did before he took over in KC.

He accomplished exactly Jack in KC.
The NFL doesn't revolve around the Kansas City Chiefs though. I never understood that argument. That doesn't mean he was a success here, but as I always say, you don't forget how to be a good coach. The guy has more success than the majority of coaches that have ever coached in this league. That's not debatable. Doesn't mean you're going to have success 100% of the time, there are competent people everywhere that fail everyday. But being self-centered doesn't mean that the world actually revolves around you.
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"That Bernard Pollard....jeez...he just...*sniffle*...CRUSHED HIM!"
In this case I wouldn't fault him for crying.

Given the lack of hitting in KC for the last 5 years, watching a Chief actualy lay some wood might make me cry too.
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He certainly didn't accomplish anything HERE. Like I give a shit about what he did/didn't do in St. Louis or Philadelphia.
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He certainly didn't accomplish anything HERE. Like I give a shit about what he did/didn't do in St. Louis or Philadelphia.
I wasn't debating whether he accomplished anything here. I was debating the statement saying his philosophy of longer practices/aggressive play/etc. etc. ever actually worked.
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The NFL doesn't revolve around the Kansas City Chiefs though. I never understood that argument. That doesn't mean he was a success here, but as I always say, you don't forget how to be a good coach. The guy has more success than the majority of coaches that have ever coached in this league. That's not debatable. Doesn't mean you're going to have success 100% of the time, there are competent people everywhere that fail everyday. But being self-centered doesn't mean that the world actually revolves around you.
And all of that matters, how?
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Is anyone actually paying attention? I thought we were debating how Martyball rarely ever worked, with anybody, at any level. And someone said Vermeilball never accomplished anything either, and I said that wasn't entirely true. It's not that complicated.
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Is anyone actually paying attention? I thought we were debating how Martyball rarely ever worked, with anybody, at any level. And someone said Vermeilball never accomplished anything either, and I said that wasn't entirely true. It's not that complicated.
Every coach trys to manage the clock and protect the lead.
Even Dick in StL did it with Marshal Faulk and a decent defense.

It's the when, and how, that I'm talking about.

Martyball failed because he went into a conservative shell, on both sides of the ball to protect the lead early in the 3rd quarter.
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