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View Poll Results: Should the Chiefs Hire A GM or HC first? | |||
Hire a GM first | 70 | 77.78% | |
Hire a Head Coach first | 13 | 14.44% | |
Let Gaz decide with a Ouija Board | 7 | 7.78% | |
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll |
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11-19-2012, 10:27 PM | #61 |
Cry havoc...
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I think Gruden ends up in San Diego or Philly...
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11-20-2012, 07:16 AM | #62 |
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GM first please.
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11-20-2012, 07:23 AM | #63 |
You're CARICATURES, ALL of you
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Who was hired first in Atlanta? The HC Smith or the GM Dimitrioff (sp?)?
I'd follow that model. |
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11-20-2012, 07:23 AM | #64 |
'Tis my eye!
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Petro has been saying this for about a week, too.
Go get your HC FIRST. Then have him bring in a GM. He says the NFL is changing, head coaches are too important, and if you look at teams like Green Bay, the relationship is more functional when the GM doesn't have total control. |
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11-20-2012, 07:26 AM | #65 | |
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What this team REALLY needs is a guy that has yet to win a Super Bowl but has been a head coach elsewhere. |
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11-20-2012, 07:27 AM | #66 | |||
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Completely unacceptable...
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11-20-2012, 07:30 AM | #67 |
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To me, "retread" is somebody who has coached here before.
Marty is a "retread". Cowher is a "retread". Andy Reid is not a retread. I'm not sure I like him as a HC (seems to have Martz-esque troubles with a balanced offense at times, moving an offensive line coach to DC seems monumentally stupid) but he fits the bill - 2nd job, no ring. |
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11-20-2012, 07:37 AM | #68 | |||
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Parcells was not a retread. He won everywhere he went. Cowher = 1 HC job. Reid = 1 HC job. Gruden = built one team that went to an AFCC game and the SB the next year. Took a team his first year to the SB and DESTROYED his old team. The idea that a team doesn't need a motivator as HC is the dumbest thing I keep hearing on here. I don't care where you work a positive mindset combined with competent execution of your goals is why any business works...
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11-20-2012, 07:40 AM | #69 | |
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If we don't starting learning how to defy history we'll never have a franchise QB and will only win one more playoff game over the next 40 years.
Defying history is EXACTLY what we're looking for...
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11-20-2012, 07:47 AM | #71 | |
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On the other hand, you can take the history of EVERY team and EVERY coach over the course of nearly a century - that's a sample size in the thousands - and not find a single coach that has won a championship with 2 different teams. They're not even close to the same idea. What you want is not defying history, it's simply changing behavior. Last edited by htismaqe; 11-20-2012 at 07:53 AM.. |
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Won an AFCC game (Patriots.) That's two champ games in two different conferences. Then took the Jets to the AFCC game. At this hour I'm not sure about the chronological order there but you get the point...
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And I'm sure Patriot and Jets fans were perfectly happy with Parcells NOT winning a Super Bowl there. Our goal isn't to make it to an AFC Championship game. Hell, Marty did that. Let's bring him back. |
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This team is a joke on the level of the Lions, Browns, or Seahawks. We need a HC with lofty goals and practical applications...
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11-20-2012, 08:14 AM | #75 |
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The current owner learned everything he knows about football from the former owner. There's no clean break in philosophy there - at least not yet.
The point is that what we've done in the past is not a historical trend. There aren't enough data points. If you want to discuss what we've done in relativity to the rest of the league, when it comes to drafting and developing QBs, then we can talk about historical trends. This team constitutes one large, 30-year data point in that analysis and it's not flattering for sure. In same ways I understand that mindset and that's fine for the fans. However, in the end, the goal is to win it all. |
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