**FFToday Homer Draft** CP selecting for KC by Poll

[Kyle401]

Rules
1. You can trade, but only picks in this draft. Compensatory picks are not tradable. Players and future picks are not tradable. You should use this trade value chart to be sure your deal is close in value. If it's not, I'll either amend or veto it. Please prepare trades ahead of time instead of holding us up for hours during your pick.
2. If you will be gone for awhile and are almost up, please email me (or provide someone, somehow) a list of players for your pick.
3. Please don't start a ton of war room threads on the main site. That's what the contacts list is for. As much as you can, keep the discussion contained to the discussion thread and keep your picks posted here.
4. You should make a selection based on what you think the team will do, not necessarily what you think it should do.
5. Be patient, especially at the beginning as we get going.

1.1 San Francisco - WR Braylon Edwards, Michigan
1.2 Miami - RB Ronnie Brown, Auburn
1.3 Cleveland - LB Derrick Johnson, Texas
1.4 Chicago - WR Mike Williams, USC
1.5 Tampa Bay - RB Carnell Williams, Auburn
1.6 Tennessee - RB Cedric Benson, Texas
1.7 Minnesota (from Oakland) - CB Adam "Pac-man" Jones, West Virginia
1.8 Arizona - QB Alex Smith, Utah
1.9 Washington - CB Antrelle Rolle, Miami
1.10 Detroit - OT Alex Barron, Florida State
1.11 Dallas - DE Shawne Merriman, Maryland
1.12 San Diego (from New York Giants) - DE/DT Shaun Cody, USC
1.13 Houston - DE Marcus Spears, LSU
1.14 Carolina - WR Troy Williamson, South Carolina
1.15 Kansas City - CB Carlos Rogers, Auburn
1.16 New Orleans - SS/OLB Thomas Davis, Georgia
1.17 Cincinnati - DE Erasmus James, Wisconsin
1.18 Philadelphia (from Minnesota) - OT Jammal Brown, Oklahoma
1.19 St. Louis - OT Adam Terry, Syracuse
1.20 Dallas (from Buffalo) - DE Dan Cody, Oklahoma
1.21 Jacksonville - DE David Pollack, Georgia
1.22 San Francisco (from Baltimore) - QB Aaron Rodgers, California
1.23 Seattle - DT Travis Johnson, Florida St.
1.24 Green Bay - DT Anttaj Hawthorne, Wisconsin
1.25 Denver - WR Roddy White, UAB
1.26 N.Y. Jets - TE Heath Miller, Virginia
1.27 Atlanta - WR Mark Clayton, Oklahoma
1.28 San Diego - DE/OLB Matt Roth, Iowa
1.29 Indianapolis - CB Fabian Washington, Nebraska
1.30 Pittsburgh - LB Barrett Ruud, Nebraska
1.31 Minnesota (from Philadelphia) - DE Demarcus Ware, Troy
1.32 New England - LB Channing Crowder, Florida

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2.33 Baltimore (from San Francisco) - OT Kahlif Barnes, Washington
2.34 Cleveland - QB Jason Campbell, Auburn
2.35 Philadelphia (from Miami) - WR/QB Matt Jones, Arkansas
2.36 Tampa Bay - C/G David Baas, Michigan
2.37 Tennessee - CB Marlin Jackson, Michigan
2.38 Oakland - LB Darryl Blackstock, Virginia
2.39 Baltimore (from Chicago) - G Elton Brown, Virginia
2.40 New Orleans (from Washington) - LB Kevin Burnett, Tennessee
2.41 Detroit - S Brodney Pool, Oklahoma
2.42 Dallas - WR Chris Henry, West Virginia
2.43 N.Y. Jets (from N.Y. Giants) - CB Justin Miller, Clemson
2.44 Arizona - RB Ciatrick Fason, Florida
2.45 Carolina - S/LB Ernest Shazor, Michigan
2.46 Kansas City - CB Brandon Browner, Oregon St.
2.47 Houston - DE Justin Tuck, Notre Dame
2.48 Cincinnati - DT Louis Castillo, Northwestern
2.49 Minnesota - K Mike Nugent, Ohio St.
2.50 Arizona (from St. Louis) - CB Corey Webster, LSU
2.51 Seattle (from Green Bay from New Orleans) - LB Odell Thurman, Georgia
2.52 Minnesota (from Jacksonville) - WR Reggie Brown, Georgia
2.53 Chicago (from Baltimore) - RB Marion Barber III, Minnesota
2.54 Green Bay (from Seattle) - S Josh Bullocks, Nebraska
2.55 Buffalo - C Chris Spencer, Ole Miss
2.56 Denver - CB Bryant McFadden, Florida St.
2.57 N.Y. Giants (from N.Y. Jets) - DT Mike Patterson, USC
2.58 Green Bay - LB Michael Boley, Southern Miss.
2.59 Atlanta - CB Antonio Perkins, Oklahoma
2.60 Indianapolis - LB Robert McCune, Louisville
2.61 San Diego - S Gerald Sensabaugh, North Carolina
2.62 Pittsburgh - WR Terrence Murphy, Texas A&M
2.63 Jacksonville ( from Minnesota from Philadelphia) - CB Stanley Wilson, Stanford
2.64 Pittsburgh (from New England) - TE Alex Smith, Stanford

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3.65 Baltimore (from San Francisco) - S Donte Nicholson, Oklahoma
3.66 St. Louis (from Miami) - DE George Gause, South Carolina
3.67 Cleveland - WR Vincent Jackson, Northern Colorado
3.68 Tennessee - QB Adrian McPherson, Indiana
3.69 Oakland - G/T Marcus Johnson, Ole Miss
3.70 Miami (from Chicago) - WR Jerome Mathis, Hampton
3.71 Tampa Bay - WR Fred Gibson, Georgia
3.72 Detroit - QB Charlie Frye, Akron
3.73 Houston (from Dallas) - WR Courtney Roby, Indiana
3.74 N.Y. Giants - RB Eric Shelton, Louisville
3.75 St. Louis (from Arizona) - WR Roscoe Parrish, Miami
3.76 Washington - WR J.R. Russell, Louisville
3.77 Philadelphia (from Kansas City) - LB Rian Wallace, Temple
3.78 Houston - C Ben Wilkerson, LSU
3.79 Carolina - RB JJ Arrington, California, Berkley
3.80 Minnesota - G Evan Mathis, Alabama
3.81 St. Louis - CB Ronald Bartell Jr., Howard
3.82 New Orleans - DT CJ Mosely, Missouri
3.83 Cincinnati - C Jason Brown, North Carolina
3.84 Chicago (from Baltimore) - C Richie Incognito, Nebraska
3.85 Seattle - DE Chris Canty, Virginia
3.86 Buffalo - CB Darrent Williams, Oklahoma State
3.87 Jacksonville - WR Mark Bradley, Oklahoma
3.88 N.Y. Giants (from N.Y. Jets) - CB Eric Green, Virginia Tech
3.89 Green Bay - DE Jovan Haye, Vanderbilt
3.90 Atlanta - DT Johnathan Babineaux, Iowa
3.91 Tampa Bay (from San Diego) - S Oshiomogho Atogwe, Stanford
3.92 Indianapolis - RB Ryan Moates, Louisiana Tech
3.93 Pittsburgh - WR Craphonso Thorpe, Florida State
3.94 Philadelphia - RB Maurice Clarett, Ohio State
3.95 St. Louis (from Arizona from New England) - DT Atiyyah Ellison, Missouri
3.96 Tennessee (Compensatory Selection) - OT Chris Colmer, NC State
3.97 Denver (Compensatory Selection) - S Vincent Fuller, Virginia Tech
3.98 Green Bay (Compensatory Selection) - LB Lance Mitchell, Oklahoma
3.99 Kansas City (Compensatory Selection) - LB Adam Seward, UNLV
3.100 New England (Compensatory Selection) - LB Kirk Morrison, San Diego State
3.101 Denver (Compensatory Selection) - G Chris Kemoeatu, Utah

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4.102 San Francisco - RB Vernand Morency, Oklahoma State
4.103 Cleveland - DT Ronald Fields, Mississippi State
4.104 Miami - OT Wesley Britt, Alabama
4.105 Oakland - ILB Marcus Lawrence, South Carolina
4.106 Chicago - TE Kevin Everett, Miami
4.107 Tampa Bay - LB Lofa Tatupu, USC
4.108 Tennessee - WR Brandon Jones, Oklahoma
4.109 Dallas - S James Bulter, Georgia Tech
4.110 N.Y. Giants - T Michael Munoz, Tennessee
4.111 Arizona - LB Mike Goolsby, Notre Dame
4.112 Washington - DE James Davis, Virginia Tech
4.113 Detroit - DE Bill Swancutt, Oregon State
4.114 Houston - S Junior Rosegreen, Auburn
4.115 Carolina - T Jeremy Parquet, Southern Miss
4.116 Kansas City - QB Andrew Walter, Arizona State
4.117 St. Louis - S Sean Considine, Iowa
4.118 New Orleans - S Andre Maddox, NC State
4.119 Cincinnati - TE Joel Dreesen, Colorado State
4.120 Jacksonville (via Min) - T Ray Willis, Florida State
4.121 Seattle - G Logan Mankins, Fresno State
4.122 Buffalo - RB Frank Gore, Miami
4.123 Jacksonville - RB Cedric Houston, Tennessee
4.124 Baltimore - CB Carl Paymah, Washington State
4.125 Seattle (via GB) - RB Kay-Jay Harris, West Virginia
4.126 Seattle (from Den) - LB Alfred Fincher, Connecticutt
4.127 N.Y. Jets - DT Darrell Shropshire, South Carolina
4.128 Atlanta - OL Pete McMahon, Iowa
4.129 Indianapolis - DT Sione Pouha, Utah
4.130 San Diego - G Scott Young, Brigham Young
4.131 Pittsburgh - OG/OT C.J. Brooks, Maryland
4.132 Philadelphia - DT Anthony Bryant, Alabama
4.133 New England - QB David Greene, Georgia
4.134 St. Louis (Comp) - C Eric Ghiacuic, Central Michigan
4.135 Indianapolis (Comp) - DE Tyler King, Connecticutt
4.136 Tennessee (Comp) - OLB/DE Derek Wake, Penn State

[Ebolapox]

unfortunately, there's no poll, you lameass terrifucker

-EB-

[milkman]

Originally Posted by philfree

I don't have a problem with that plan though I have seen where some folks have Marlin moving to FS in the NFL. I think that was from a speed issue but I just looked and he ran a 4.48 at his pro day work which is better then his combine time. I like Jackson so I was hoping he'd run well. To me we need to be careful in our attempt to fix everything that we end up not fixing anything. Who plays WLB?

PhilFree

Blackstock at the Will, Fujita at Sam.

And I've seen all that talk about Jackson to FS, which doesn't make any sense, since he excelled at CB in school, but struggled at FS when he ws moved there in his junior season.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

Blackstock at the Will, Fujita at Sam.

And I've seen all that talk about Jackson to FS, which doesn't make any sense, since he excelled at CB in school, but struggled at FS when he ws moved there in his junior season.

Blackstock at Will huh O-tay I read a report comparing him to LT which is kinda of exciting. And I hear what you're saying about Jackson. Like I said I think the FS talk was more of a speed issue in workouts then performance on the field. When I watched him play he played well and he does have the size to play bump so....yeah I like him. I like Corey Webster too even though he's kinda fallen from grace. He was injured this year but played and he didn't fair as well and I think he was still not 100% at the Sr Bowl and he showed poorly. If he returns to form he could be a steal if he keeps slipping. I can't ignore his 14 INTs he had in his Soph and Jr years.


PhilFree

[milkman]

Originally Posted by philfree

Blackstock at Will huh O-tay I read a report comparing him to Lawrence Taylor which is kinda of exciting. And I hear what you're saying about Jackson. Like I said I think the FS talk was more of a speed issue in workouts then performance on the field. When I watched him play he played well and he does have the size to play bump so....yeah I like him. I like Corey Webster too even though he's kinda fallen from grace. He was injured this year but played and he didn't fair as well and I think he was still not 100% at the Sr Bowl and he showed poorly. If he returns to form he could be a steal if he keeps slipping. I can't ignore his 14 INTs he had in his Soph and Jr years.


PhilFree

Of the 2, Jackson or Webster, everything I've read seems to indicate Jackson is more ready to come in and play now.

That's what we need.

If we stay at 15, I expect Carlos Rogers will be our pick, though.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

Of the 2, Jackson or Webster, everything I've read seems to indicate Jackson is more ready to come in and play now.

That's what we need.

If we stay at 15, I expect Carlos Rogers will be our pick, though.

I believe that's right. I do think Webster if 100% could contribute as a rookie though. I haven't seen his pro day 40 time though. He didn't run on the 1st LSU pro day and I'm not sure they've had their 2nd set of work outs. If they did if was in the last couple of days. IMO Jackson and Webster are both being a little overlooked while some rawer talent is stealing the limelight because of their speed and athletic ability. Upside I guess is the proper term.


PhilFree

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

First, to go back to your thoughts on Shaun Cody, he is being projected as DE in the draft, even in a 4-3.
He's big, strong, fast and quick.
He's one of the few guys that I've seen play, and he's going to be big time runstuffing/pass rush DE.

As for Blackstock, every scouting report I've read on him says that he has improved against the run each year in college, becoming a sloid run defender by last season.

They say his only real weakness is his pass coverage skills, and while they haven't improved as much as his run defense, they have, and he is expected to continue to improve because he's a film study-holic, and a hard worker.

At 290, he has tons of potential to be a good DE, particularly in a 3-4.

Everything I've read on Blackstock is that he's pretty one-dimnesional and took great advantage of the fact that UVA was one of a handful of schools in D-1 that run a 3-4. The one time I saw him play he didn't drop back in coverage once, he purely rushed the passer.

He's NOT a Will. We need guys who can play right away, not more projects. Putting Blackstock at WSLB would be a big project.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

Blackstock at the Will, Fujita at Sam.

And I've seen all that talk about Jackson to FS, which doesn't make any sense, since he excelled at CB in school, but struggled at FS when he ws moved there in his junior season.

Jackson will be a CB in the NFL, and my bet is that he'll be a damn good one.

I watched the guy play at Meecheegan and he's exactly what we need - ready to play Day 1.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

At 290, he has tons of potential to be a good DE, particularly in a 3-4.

Everything I've read on Blackstock is that he's pretty one-dimnesional and took great advantage of the fact that UVA was one of a handful of schools in D-1 that run a 3-4. The one time I saw him play he didn't drop back in coverage once, he purely rushed the passer.

He's NOT a Will. We need guys who can play right away, not more projects. Putting Blackstock at WSLB would be a big project.

I don't think Blackstock is just a pass rusher though that's the strongest part of his game. To me he's a down hill player. IMO he's a SLB in a 4-3 and I've read nothing that says he's a liability against the run. I read an interview of his and he is extremely confident that he can play in any scheme. FWIW

PhilFree

[htismaqe]

This is the Blackstock scouting report from NFL Draft Countdown. Other reports I've read sound basically the same.

Strengths: Has good size...Tall and rangy frame...Does an excellent job at getting after the quarterback and is a great pass rusher...Good quickness and has a burst...Excellent athletic ability...Very productive.
Weaknesses: A liability versus the run...Not a natural in coverage...Lacks fluid hips...Doesn't change direction well...Plays in a 3-4 defense that is perfectly tailored to his skills and may need to be in a similar scheme in the pros.
Notes: Overshadowed by Ahmad Brooks and Kai Parham at times...Would be a perfect fit at outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme...A little overrated due to his pass rush numbers and is basically still a raw, one-trick pony at this point.


FYI, they are pretty accurate with their mocks and they have him going 31st in the FIRST round to Philly.

[Kyle401]

The select - WR Roddy White, UAB

[Kyle401]

Originally Posted by EBOLA

unfortunately, there's no poll, you lameass terrifucker

-EB-

Originally Posted by Kyle401

I will start a poll in another thread when we reach our pick.

Poll

Unfortunately you are about 10 hours too late, jeenyus.

[Kyle401]

Originally Posted by Mile High Drunk

About my pick, I am not really thrilled about Roddy White, but since all the DBs are gone and we filled our defensive line up with that 32nd against the run, 27th in sacks Browns front 4, WR in my opinon is our next biggest need. White, has a good upside, but his value now is fairly low. I dont see him having a major impact this year. Also, everything i hear about the guy, is not impressive, personality wise. Kind of a slacker, who doesnt give full effort all of the time. Not my kind of guy, but should fit in well with Courtney Brown and Gerrard Warren.

[Kyle401]

The Jets select - TE Heath Miller, Virginia

[Kyle401]

The Falcons select - WR Mark Clayton, Oklahoma

The Chargers select - OLB/DE Matt Roth, Iowa

[htismaqe]

So the Chargers took a 290-pound DT with hopes of moving him to DE and then took a 270-pound DE with hopes of moving him to OLB?

This looks awfully dumb to me, but that being said, I hope Matt Roth doesn't go to an AFC West team unless it's the Chiefs. It's bad enough watching Gallery play for the Raiders...