Beisel signs with Patriots - Page 5

footaction9 · 04-08-2005, 09:35 AM

I will miss seeing his wife at the games. She is a former Miss Kansas. Smokin

cadmonkey · 04-08-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by footaction9

I will miss seeing his wife at the games. She is a former Miss Kansas. Smokin

Sweet, so we have Johnny Damon's smoking hot wife at the sox games and his smoking hot wife at the pats games. I'll tell ya what, keep shipping these KC guys out here if they bring hot wives with them.

BigChiefFan · 04-08-2005, 09:40 AM

I think Beisel has alot of upside, however he definitely isn't there yet. He's a hard-nosed guy, who is willing to put in the work it takes to become better. That's why I would have liked to have seen him re-signed. However, this isn't close to being the one player we had to re-sign to become a dominant defense. Not even close. Beisel is a decent player, not a HOFer.

wildcat09 · 04-08-2005, 09:50 AM

I sat behind her at a couple of games. bootyfull

Calcountry · 04-08-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

http://www.chiefswarpath.com/home.htm

I'm sure someone else will report this. But hey I think this will open up a spot for a better LB in the first round now hopefully we can trade up for johnson.

I hope a little of our D's karma rubs off on the Patriots with that move.

Chest Rockwell · 04-08-2005, 11:21 AM

Mixed emotions here. I liked the guy and think he could have been productive if they'd let him settle down in one position. Like others have said, smart, hard worker. Fit "The Profile" obviously.

That said, I'm not devastated he's gone but also worried about the state of the linebacking corps right now.

It'd be a real bitch for him if the Chiefs managed to win the SB this year.

As far as leading the team in tackles goes, what's that taken the past few years, 9-10 or so tackles?

I'm keeping a close eye on that "Make My Day" law in Florida. That passes and I say move the team. Hell, anybody with the football could definitely be perceived as a threat. Maybe some of the guys could shoot better than they can tackle.

Dirtywater · 04-08-2005, 12:40 PM

Look, I can understand not caring, or being upset that he took less money to leave, but come on, the guy just wanted a chance to play in a good system with a chance to win. The poster who hoped he got injured was classless.

And though I can understand you wanting the Pats time in the spotlight to be over, at least we did it the right way. Hard work and a team concept. Everyone claims to hate the "me-first" athletes of today, yet when a team comes along like the Pats who preach the team concept, everyone hates them and can't wait for the ol' superstar dynasties like Dallas returns. I don't get it.

Anyway, I enjoyed reading your input on the deal.

Kerberos · 04-09-2005, 07:40 AM

Good riddence.. NOW can we finally get a great linbacker like Rich Scanlon into the starting lineup ???

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htismaqe · 04-10-2005, 05:18 AM

I had to come back because I noticed that you can't even comprehend your OWN posts...

but the big difference between me and you is im always a fan whether we win or lose.

You called ME a bandwagon fan. When I told you to stick it, you made some joke about sperm (I'm sure you know alot about sperm, considering you drink it like PBR), as if I called YOU a bandwagon fan.

KCPatsFan12 · 04-10-2005, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

I had to come back because I noticed that you can't even comprehend your OWN posts...

but the big difference between me and you is im always a fan whether we win or lose.

You called ME a bandwagon fan. When I told you to stick it, you made some joke about sperm (I'm sure you know alot about sperm, considering you drink it like PBR), as if I called YOU a bandwagon fan.

go back and read your own post pal. you told me to stick my bandwagon fan bullshit up my ass and other not so nice words LOL thats when i ..oh never mind trading barbs with a person who can only argue sports with insults is like running into a brick wall.

htismaqe · 04-10-2005, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KCPatsFan12

go back and read your own post pal. you told me to stick my bandwagon fan bullshit up my ass and other not so nice words LOL thats when i ..oh never mind trading barbs with a person who can only argue sports with insults is like running into a brick wall.

You STILL don't get it.

It was YOU who called US bandwagon fans. You not only can't comprehend what I am saying, but you can't understand your OWN POSTS.

AirForceChief · 04-10-2005, 10:02 AM

Just in case this thread takes a bizzare turn back toward talk of football and Beisel (from yesterday's Topeka Cap-Jor):

Dean: Beisel could have plugged the leaks

By Rick Dean
The Capital-Journal
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Let's lift our morning cup of pick-me-up today to a guy who finally caught the break he deserved.

One can't help but feel good for Kansas State product Monty Beisel after he agreed to a two-year contract with the New England Patriots, champions in three of the last four Super Bowls.

If only we could feel that good about the team Beisel left behind, the linebacker-lacking Kansas City Chiefs.

In a classic one-step-forward, two-steps-back maneuver, the Chiefs' leaky defense may be in worse shape today than it was before the significant free-agent acquisition of Kendrell Bell, the impact middle linebacker who (if healthy) could patch a major hole in the KC middle.

But now, suddenly, there are two other holes with geyser potential to Bell's right and left. And with Beisel's departure, Kansas City lost its most capable plumber.
Breaking at the same time as news of Beisel's leaving is word that strong-side linebacker Scott Fujita has an ankle injury that could make his availability questionable.

Fujita, who just signed a one-year deal for the restricted free agent minimum of $656,000, underwent an arthroscopic procedure Friday to determine whether he would need more significant surgery on the ailing ankle that limited his mobility much of last season.

Keep in mind, too, that KC will open the season without Shawn Barber, the accomplished weak-side linebacker who missed eight games last year after tearing his ACL. His recovery took on water when a second operation was required. Barber won't be available until early in the season, at best.

The Chiefs might have handled these leaks better with Beisel aboard. Remember, he played all three linebacking positions in three seasons after the Chiefs gave up on making him an undersized NFL defensive end, the position he played at K-State.

It would be nice to report that Beisel was a jack of all trades at all three positions. In truth, he never really mastered any. The never-ending shifting left him quietly frustrated as he fought through the mental mush of learning new responsibilities.

We consequently never really saw -- apology in advance -- the full Monty in Kansas City.

That's why we're happy today that Beisel will get to focus on one position with New England. The Patriots face the unhappy prospect of playing without Teddy Bruschi, their splendid inside linebacker whose football future is in jeopardy after experiencing stroke-like symptoms. Beisel will get every chance to compete for Bruschi's spot if Bruschi can't play.

It's a better deal than he had in Kansas City -- which, we understand, was ready to match or even top New England's financial offer. With the Chiefs, however, Beisel knew he would always be a utility guy, a spot starter awaiting the return of Barber or Fujita. He deserved better, and now he's getting it.

Just when the Chiefs need a utility man more than ever.

Mr. Laz · 04-10-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AirForceChief

With the Chiefs, however, Beisel knew he would always be a utility guy, a spot starter awaiting the return of Barber or Fujita. He deserved better, and now he's getting it

yeppers ... that's it

it would of been a mistake for Beisel to return to the chiefs ... even for more money. He needed to find a team that would give him a real chance.

htismaqe · 04-10-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

yeppers ... that's it

it would of been a mistake for Beisel to return to the chiefs ... even for more money. He needed to find a team that would give him a real chance.

Yep.

Even moreso, he need to go to a team that plays a defense that fits his abilities. I think he'll play well in a 3-4.

Mr. Laz · 04-10-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

Yep.

Even moreso, he need to go to a team that plays a defense that fits his abilities. I think he'll play well in a 3-4.

yep... he made a wise decision IMO

a good team, with good coaches that has a need and system that fits him.

his decision is similiar to Priest Holmes' decision to come to kansas city.

(and no, for the brain dead ... i'm not saying Beisel is as good as holmes... just that the decision making was similiar)

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BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I think Beisel has alot of upside, however he definitely isn't there yet. He's a hard-nosed guy, who is willing to put in the work it takes to become better. That's why I would have liked to have seen him re-signed. However, this isn't close to being the one player we had to re-sign to become a dominant defense. Not even close. Beisel is a decent player, not a HOFer. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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04-08-2005, 11:21 AM	#6
Chest Rockwell Y'all are brutalizin' me! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Jim Bob Cooter 4 Heisman Casino cash: $10000985	Mixed emotions here. I liked the guy and think he could have been productive if they'd let him settle down in one position. Like others have said, smart, hard worker. Fit "The Profile" obviously. That said, I'm not devastated he's gone but also worried about the state of the linebacking corps right now. It'd be a real bitch for him if the Chiefs managed to win the SB this year. As far as leading the team in tackles goes, what's that taken the past few years, 9-10 or so tackles? I'm keeping a close eye on that "Make My Day" law in Florida. That passes and I say move the team. Hell, anybody with the football could definitely be perceived as a threat. Maybe some of the guys could shoot better than they can tackle. __________________ MASTER CYLINDER!
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Dirtywater Rookie Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Look, I can understand not caring, or being upset that he took less money to leave, but come on, the guy just wanted a chance to play in a good system with a chance to win. The poster who hoped he got injured was classless. And though I can understand you wanting the Pats time in the spotlight to be over, at least we did it the right way. Hard work and a team concept. Everyone claims to hate the "me-first" athletes of today, yet when a team comes along like the Pats who preach the team concept, everyone hates them and can't wait for the ol' superstar dynasties like Dallas returns. I don't get it. Anyway, I enjoyed reading your input on the deal. __________________
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04-10-2005, 05:18 AM	#9
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8149900	I had to come back because I noticed that you can't even comprehend your OWN posts... but the big difference between me and you is im always a fan whether we win or lose. You called ME a bandwagon fan. When I told you to stick it, you made some joke about sperm (I'm sure you know alot about sperm, considering you drink it like PBR), as if I called YOU a bandwagon fan.
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04-10-2005, 10:02 AM	#12
AirForceChief Thread Killer Extraordinaire Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Monument, Co Casino cash: $10004930	Just in case this thread takes a bizzare turn back toward talk of football and Beisel (from yesterday's Topeka Cap-Jor): Dean: Beisel could have plugged the leaks By Rick Dean The Capital-Journal KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Let's lift our morning cup of pick-me-up today to a guy who finally caught the break he deserved. One can't help but feel good for Kansas State product Monty Beisel after he agreed to a two-year contract with the New England Patriots, champions in three of the last four Super Bowls. If only we could feel that good about the team Beisel left behind, the linebacker-lacking Kansas City Chiefs. In a classic one-step-forward, two-steps-back maneuver, the Chiefs' leaky defense may be in worse shape today than it was before the significant free-agent acquisition of Kendrell Bell, the impact middle linebacker who (if healthy) could patch a major hole in the KC middle. But now, suddenly, there are two other holes with geyser potential to Bell's right and left. And with Beisel's departure, Kansas City lost its most capable plumber. Breaking at the same time as news of Beisel's leaving is word that strong-side linebacker Scott Fujita has an ankle injury that could make his availability questionable. Fujita, who just signed a one-year deal for the restricted free agent minimum of $656,000, underwent an arthroscopic procedure Friday to determine whether he would need more significant surgery on the ailing ankle that limited his mobility much of last season. Keep in mind, too, that KC will open the season without Shawn Barber, the accomplished weak-side linebacker who missed eight games last year after tearing his ACL. His recovery took on water when a second operation was required. Barber won't be available until early in the season, at best. The Chiefs might have handled these leaks better with Beisel aboard. Remember, he played all three linebacking positions in three seasons after the Chiefs gave up on making him an undersized NFL defensive end, the position he played at K-State. It would be nice to report that Beisel was a jack of all trades at all three positions. In truth, he never really mastered any. The never-ending shifting left him quietly frustrated as he fought through the mental mush of learning new responsibilities. We consequently never really saw -- apology in advance -- the full Monty in Kansas City. That's why we're happy today that Beisel will get to focus on one position with New England. The Patriots face the unhappy prospect of playing without Teddy Bruschi, their splendid inside linebacker whose football future is in jeopardy after experiencing stroke-like symptoms. Beisel will get every chance to compete for Bruschi's spot if Bruschi can't play. It's a better deal than he had in Kansas City -- which, we understand, was ready to match or even top New England's financial offer. With the Chiefs, however, Beisel knew he would always be a utility guy, a spot starter awaiting the return of Barber or Fujita. He deserved better, and now he's getting it. Just when the Chiefs need a utility man more than ever. __________________ John Stuart Mill: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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