Chiefs Why I want Mike Martz to be the Chiefs next HC - Page 5

listopencil · 12-28-2005, 07:56 PM

I could see Martz as an OC with a level-headed HC to balance him out.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-28-2005, 08:40 PM

Why I want KCChiefsfan88 banned...

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Why I want Mike Martz to be the next HC...My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has.

2) Martz would keep the basis of the Chiefs' current successful offensive system in place and would probably enhance the passing game by upgrading the WR position, making the Chiefs passing game more explosive. Also Martz and Trent Green have a history together and a positive relationship, which is important considering Trent will probably be the Chiefs starting QB for another 2 seasons at least IMO.

3) Martz has a proven track record of developing QBs (see Trent Green, which goes back to his days in Washington, Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger) and would be able to develop a young QB to eventually replace Trent Green.

4) All the gushing over Gregg Williams, people are forgetting how horrible he was as a head coach in Buffalo. That 3rd year where he had the players in place on defense that he had wanted, the Bills completely fell apart, finishing 6-10. All he's proven in Washington is that he's a good defensive coordinator, but nothing that would suggest he would be a better head coach if he were given a second chance.

5) Looking at college ranks, really no one stands out to me. I don't think Carroll will leave USC this offseason and I don't think Stoops would make a good NFL head coach (especially considering he is overrated as a college coach, see how Pete Caroll and Nick Saban toyed with and humiliated him in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl the past 2 years). Not to mention, also that Stoops has zero NFL coaching experience.

6) I think Martz could be a guy who helps turn around the Chiefs defense. After his first year as head coach of the Rams, he led the Rams focus that offseason towards dramatically improving their defense, and he hired Lovie Smith to be DC. The following season the Rams finished in the top 10 in total defense and allowed 200 less points that season than they did the season before (second most dramatic improvement in NFL history). I'm not arguing that Martz was the main reason behind that improvement and I'm sure Lovie Smith was probably the main reason why, but Martz was the one who hired Lovie Smith and Martz led the initiative to dramatically improve the Rams defense that offseason.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-28-2005, 08:43 PM

I really hope Rivera is given a chance here...

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-28-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

I really hope Rivera is given a chance here...

Along with Singletary as DC. He'd be the 1st latin NFL HC...

**the Talking Can** · 12-28-2005, 08:45 PM

Martz is the human equivelant of a reerun...

Spott · 12-28-2005, 10:14 PM

I will burn every piece of Chiefs memorabilia that I own if we hire this moron.

**Rausch** · 12-28-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has.

2) Martz would keep the basis of the Chiefs' current successful offensive system in place and would probably enhance the passing game by upgrading the WR position, making the Chiefs passing game more explosive. Also Martz and Trent Green have a history together and a positive relationship, which is important considering Trent will probably be the Chiefs starting QB for another 2 seasons at least IMO.

3) Martz has a proven track record of developing QBs (see Trent Green, which goes back to his days in Washington, Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger) and would be able to develop a young QB to eventually replace Trent Green.

4) All the gushing over Gregg Williams, people are forgetting how horrible he was as a head coach in Buffalo. That 3rd year where he had the players in place on defense that he had wanted, the Bills completely fell apart, finishing 6-10. All he's proven in Washington is that he's a good defensive coordinator, but nothing that would suggest he would be a better head coach if he were given a second chance.

5) Looking at college ranks, really no one stands out to me. I don't think Carroll will leave USC this offseason and I don't think Stoops would make a good NFL head coach (especially considering he is overrated as a college coach, see how Pete Caroll and Nick Saban toyed with and humiliated him in the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl the past 2 years). Not to mention, also that Stoops has zero NFL coaching experience.

6) I think Martz could be a guy who helps turn around the Chiefs defense. After his first year as head coach of the Rams, he led the Rams focus that offseason towards dramatically improving their defense, and he hired Lovie Smith to be DC. The following season the Rams finished in the top 10 in total defense and allowed 200 less points that season than they did the season before (second most dramatic improvement in NFL history). I'm not arguing that Martz was the main reason behind that improvement and I'm sure Lovie Smith was probably the main reason why, but Martz was the one who hired Lovie Smith and Martz led the initiative to dramatically improve the Rams defense that offseason.

Darkwolfe · 12-29-2005, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

My reasoning:

1) For all the talk that Martz is a bad coach, he has a 53-32 record as a head coach, and a 3-4 career playoff record. Gregg Williams has a 17-31 career head coaching record. It would be hard pressed to find any prospective coach who is going to be available this offseason (and I still think Fisher stays in Tennessee) with the NFL head coaching record that Martz has..
Etc.. etc.

Put it down and back away from the computer. The last thing we need is that player killer.

Logical · 12-29-2005, 12:20 AM

All offense, no defense part deux

What we need a 10 year run of this before everyone figures out it won't work. It only took me to the end of 2003, hurry up you slow learners.

**Rausch** · 12-29-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

All offense, no defense part deux

What we need a 10 year run of this before everyone figures out it won't work. It only took me to the end of 2003, hurry up you slow learners.

I guess you forgot me screaming at the top of my lungs about how this DV hire would turn out.

It was like me, Milkman, and KCJohnny. That's about it.

Logical · 12-29-2005, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I guess you forgot me screaming at the top of my lungs about how this DV hire would turn out.

It was like me, Milkman, and KCJohnny. That's about it.

I think maybe Baby Lee was with you.

**Rausch** · 12-29-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I think maybe Baby Lee was with you.

I'd tell you to just do a search but Kyle and Indiana are still searching for the archive-rosetta-stone in Iraq...

Ultra Peanut · 12-29-2005, 12:23 AM

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**Rausch** · 12-29-2005, 12:26 AM

**Dave Lane** · 12-29-2005, 12:35 AM

HE ****ING SUCKS!!!!

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