Herm Did More With Less - Page 5

**petegz28** · 10:31 AM

I know this is all reiterations but some need the reminder obviously...

No Roaf, no RT, an aged Will Shields, no T-Rich, no DT's above average, no Priest Holmes\LJ combo, no Saunders, rookie OC that had head in ass syndrome, injured starting QB for 8 weeks out of the gate..

result:
9-7 record and playoff appearance.
Defense went from 31 to 16
Offense dropped from 1 - 16

Given everything he had to work with I would say the drop in offense was to be expected.

Could we have made some better decisions? Sure
Is there room for improvment? Most definitely
Did we do better than what most would expect given the situation? Yes

So before you send Herm down the river I would say you have to ask yourself what might of happened with a real LT and FB offensively?

FAX · 02-06-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I should also add, that I feel that grousing about Herm, at this point, is about as useful an exercise as bitching about the arrowhead on the side of the helmet, or that their colors are red and gold.

I agree completely, Mr. Baby Lee. That's the entire problem in a nutshell. I don't want to spend time complaining about Herm, yet I am compelled to do so. It's as if I have been possessed by a demon. If he were here right now, I'd spin my head around and puke green slime on his sweater.

FAX

BIG_DADDY · 02-06-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I agree completely, Mr. Baby Lee. That's the entire problem in a nutshell. I don't want to spend time complaining about Herm, yet I am compelled to do so. It's as if I have been possessed by a demon. If he were here right now, I'd spin my head around and puke green slime on his sweater.

FAX

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Reerun_KC · 02-06-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

I agree completely, Mr. Baby Lee. That's the entire problem in a nutshell. I don't want to spend time complaining about Herm, yet I am compelled to do so. It's as if I have been possessed by a demon. If he were here right now, I'd spin my head around and puke green slime on his sweater.

FAX

Heres the thing, Herm is like a bad comedian with zero fresh material over the last 6 years....

We watched, laughed, ridiculed the NYJ fans and Herm for years. Never thinking that his tired, predictable act would ever show up on the doorsteps of Arrowhead.

Now we are the ones the are getting laughed at and ridiculed by others.

So what are we supposed to do, blindly drink his kool-aid, walking around saying "everything will be ooookkkkaaayyy?"

GoHuge · 02-06-2007, 02:15 PM

I would much rather blow the whole thing up, start with a young necleus, and build through the draft. That is the only way to be a year in year out contender. I'll take a 4-12 year to contend from here on out. That is the only way to get there. This barely sniffing the playoffs and have a historically bad showing when we get there is embarrasing. We didn't get a first down until there was 3 minutes left in the third quarter! 9-7, 10-6, it's all the same. Your never gonna get there doing what the Chiefs have been doing. Reboot

Archie Bunker · 02-06-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Heres the thing, Herm is like a bad comedian with zero fresh material over the last 6 years....

We watched, laughed, ridiculed the NYJ fans and Herm for years. Never thinking that his tired, predictable act would ever show up on the doorsteps of Arrowhead.

Now we are the ones the are getting laughed at and ridiculed by others.

So what are we supposed to do, blindly drink his kool-aid, walking around saying "everything will be ooookkkkaaayyy?"

I was too busy admiring the fact that the Jets actually got to go to the playoffs to laugh and ridicule them.

POND_OF_RED · 02-06-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I know this is all reiterations but some need the reminder obviously...

No Roaf, no RT, an aged Will Shields, no T-Rich, no DT's above average, no Priest Holmes\LJ combo, no Saunders, rookie OC that had head in ass syndrome, injured starting QB for 8 weeks out of the gate..

result:
9-7 record and playoff appearance.
Defense went from 31 to 16
Offense dropped from 1 - 16

Given everything he had to work with I would say the drop in offense was to be expected.

Could we have made some better decisions? Sure
Is there room for improvment? Most definitely
Did we do better than what most would expect given the situation? Yes

So before you send Herm down the river I would say you have to ask yourself what might of happened with a real LT and FB offensively?

Herm hired Solari.

I blame the whole Roaf thing on Carl. Carl wanted the people to think that Roaf was coming back so they would come to the games because everone knows what our offense was like without him.

Archie Bunker · 02-06-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED

I blame the whole Roaf thing on Carl. Carl wanted the people to think that Roaf was coming back so they would come to the games because everone knows what our offense was like without him.

I knew he would be a bad GM when he drafted Blackledge. People just wouldn't listen.

Reerun_KC · 02-06-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

I was too busy admiring the fact that the Jets actually got to go to the playoffs to laugh and ridicule them.

That is the problem with the Chiefs and the fans, we want the one and done and not an AFC Championship or Superbowl appearance...

yeah yeah I know, you have to get there first, Well we got there and Herm dusted off the "How to Coach like Marty in the Playoffs" book and to much happiness of the ChiefsPlanet, we were "one and done"

Archie Bunker · 02-06-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

That is the problem with the Chiefs and the fans, we want the one and done and not an AFC Championship or Superbowl appearance...

yeah yeah I know, you have to get there first, Well we got there and Herm dusted off the "How to Coach like Marty in the Playoffs" book and to much happiness of the ChiefsPlanet, we were "one and done"

2 playoff wins in NY.

Reerun_KC · 02-06-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

2 playoff wins in NY.

And yet they still fired him.... Why?

Archie Bunker · 02-06-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And yet they still fired him.... Why?

Never heard about the firing.

Link?

Brock · 02-06-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And yet they still fired him.... Why?

Did they?

**Baby Lee** · 02-06-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And yet they still fired him.... Why?

because they didn't. . .

Reerun_KC · 02-06-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Never heard about the firing.

Link?

Oh that is right they were going to fire him, but Carl step in and saved the day for the Jets and offered a 4th round pick for "the Savior".

How did we get so lucky?

Brock · 02-06-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Oh that is right they were going to fire him

Link?

02-06-2007, 10:23 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1055873	Herm Did More With Less I know this is all reiterations but some need the reminder obviously... No Roaf, no RT, an aged Will Shields, no T-Rich, no DT's above average, no Priest Holmes\LJ combo, no Saunders, rookie OC that had head in ass syndrome, injured starting QB for 8 weeks out of the gate.. result: 9-7 record and playoff appearance. Defense went from 31 to 16 Offense dropped from 1 - 16 Given everything he had to work with I would say the drop in offense was to be expected. Could we have made some better decisions? Sure Is there room for improvment? Most definitely Did we do better than what most would expect given the situation? Yes So before you send Herm down the river I would say you have to ask yourself what might of happened with a real LT and FB offensively? Last edited by petegz28; 02-06-2007 at 10:31 AM..
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GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	I would much rather blow the whole thing up, start with a young necleus, and build through the draft. That is the only way to be a year in year out contender. I'll take a 4-12 year to contend from here on out. That is the only way to get there. This barely sniffing the playoffs and have a historically bad showing when we get there is embarrasing. We didn't get a first down until there was 3 minutes left in the third quarter! 9-7, 10-6, it's all the same. Your never gonna get there doing what the Chiefs have been doing. Reboot
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