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Old 02-19-2007, 12:14 PM  
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Best Dolt fan reactions to Norv's hiring

Possibly the best reaction is that the message board on the official Chargers site has a petition against hiring Norv.

http://www.petitiononline.com/norv/petition.html

And a poll there has a 90% "no" vote in asking if people think the hire is a good idea. Feel free to add any good lines you see!

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NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooOOOooooooooo!
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God I feel I'm gonna be sick!!!!
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Hiring Norv Turner only makes sense if A.J. Smith has a lot of money invested in Norv Turner effigies.
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Oh god I feel sick. I need to gather myself here for a second......Im not liking this right now but I have no choice but to give it a chance(if all this is true). Im going to focus on the positives. Take Rivers for example, this should benefit him the most. I can see Rivers really taking it to another level with Norv running the show. Okay I was going to list some more positives but Im not feeling so good again....oh god!
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I cant believe we could end up with Cotrell as DC. With all the bright young defensive minds around the NFL, including the ones that were interviewed for HC we could end up with Cotrell in charger of a young Charger defense with so much potential. What a waste.
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I thought we were trying to IMPROVE the head coaching position..
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I seriously might be ill. Norv Turner, looks like a nice guy. About as inspiring as soggy dog poop. Hello, what a tired, retreaded, been-there-done-that, abysmal failure of a HC as a choice. Unbelievable. If AJ is such a genius, how do you figure this? You have great guys like singletary, Rex Ryan, ron rivera (the last two coached, you know, OK defenses last year), and you wind up with Norv freakin turner? It's like being able to choose any car in the world you want and you pick a 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera with duct tape holding the door on.
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Woopty doo. Troy Aikman had him give his HOF speech. Walter Payton's son gave his acceptance speech...should we give young twenty something year old Jarret Payton an interview on Monday too? I'll let Norv's 59-82 career record be the judge of him
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Jerry Rice in his book described Norv as guy who couldn't control the players, and not a good authority figure.
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It's a good thing I hadn't had breakfast yet when I heard this litle tidbit on ESPN Radio.
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This is an absolutely HORRIBLE decision. I am seriously thinking about canceling my season tickets in protest. What a dumb dumb dumb move.
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Norv Turner can kiss my left nut.
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I think you guys should give Norv another chance. He is a GREAT coach.

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Old 02-19-2007, 03:28 PM   #61
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Mike Martz.....


Wait they have both coached in superbowls....


Why hasnt Marty and Herm?
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:29 PM   #62
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Damn, Good point.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:37 PM   #63
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Yep, our Offenslive line was horrible, He had no choice but to play conservative. Just take alook at how many sacks we gave up. Oline was that bad.
It's more about being predictable rather than being conservative..the Chiefs didn't try anything different until they were behind by more than 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter(all they did was spread them out and did more play action)..and then they zoomed down the field to score a touchdown..then,thats when Herm said ''we can't block them'' in obvious passing situations..I saw no play action passing until they were behind late in the 3rd quarter of that game..so..Herm or the OC(whatever) put the Chiefs in a position to where ''they couldn't block them''.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:43 PM   #64
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It's more about being predictable rather than being conservative..the Chiefs didn't try anything different until they were behind by more than 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter(all they did was spread them out and did more play action)..and then they zoomed down the field to score a touchdown..then,thats when Herm said ''we can't block them'' in obvious passing situations..I saw no play action passing until they were behind late in the 3rd quarter of that game..so..Herm or the OC(whatever) put the Chiefs in a position to where ''they couldn't block them''.
Playaction passes only work when the other is reacting to the run. Indy's base defense had Sanders in the box, so running playaction probably wouldn't have been the panacea it's being made out to be...
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:50 PM   #65
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Playaction passes only work when the other is reacting to the run. Indy's base defense had Sanders in the box, so running playaction probably wouldn't have been the panacea it's being made out to be...
It worked when they got behind by more than 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter(they were still in the base defense until the Chiefs spread them out)..they had Gonzalez running routes instead of blocking and the Chiefs went right down the field..and..if you supposedly can't block these guys head on(which I've heard hundreds of times),why run right into a 9 man wall?We all know that didn't work.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:53 PM   #66
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It's more about being predictable rather than being conservative..the Chiefs didn't try anything different until they were behind by more than 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter(all they did was spread them out and did more play action)..and then they zoomed down the field to score a touchdown..then,thats when Herm said ''we can't block them'' in obvious passing situations..I saw no play action passing until they were behind late in the 3rd quarter of that game..so..Herm or the OC(whatever) put the Chiefs in a position to where ''they couldn't block them''.
It wasn't just run, run, pass, punt like everyone makes it out to be. The Chiefs tried to throw early on half of its 1st half series and that didn't work either.

Was it a great gameplan? No

Was it executed well? No

The players deserve as much of the blame as Herm.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playby...0070106_KC@IND

2nd series

1-10-KC17 (8:34) T.Green pass short right to T.Gonzalez to KC 21 for 4 yards (N.Harper, C.June).
2-6-KC21 (7:57) L.Johnson up the middle to KC 22 for 1 yard (A.McFarland, G.Brackett).
3-5-KC22 (7:18) T.Green pass incomplete short left to E.Kennison.
4-5-KC22 (7:13) D.Colquitt punts 47 yards to IND 31, Center-K.Gammon, out of bounds.

5th series

1-10-KC14 (6:23) T.Green pass incomplete short left to T.Gonzalez.
2-10-KC14 (6:18) D.Hall right end to KC 22 for 8 yards (M.Jackson).
3-2-KC22 (5:34) T.Green pass incomplete short right to D.Hall.
4-2-KC22 (5:27) D.Colquitt punts 66 yards to IND 12, Center-K.Gammon. T.Wilkins to IND 31 for 19 yards (K.Fox).

6th series

1-10-KC14 (1:40) T.Green pass incomplete short right to T.Gonzalez (G.Brackett).
2-10-KC14 (1:35) (Shotgun) L.Johnson up the middle to KC 18 for 4 yards (R.Mathis, C.June).
3-6-KC18 (1:13) (Shotgun) T.Green pass short left to L.Johnson to KC 16 for -2 yards (Da.Reid).
4-8-KC16 (1:03) D.Colquitt punts 54 yards to IND 30, Center-K.Gammon. T.Wilkins to IND 35 for 5 yards (W.Kershaw).
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:55 PM   #67
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It worked when they got behind by more than 2 scores late in the 3rd quarter(they were still in the base defense until the Chiefs spread them out)..they had Gonzalez running routes instead of blocking and the Chiefs went right down the field..and..if you supposedly can't block these guys head on(which I've heard hundreds of times),why run right into a 9 man wall?We all know that didn't work.
They went right down the field because it was garbage time and the game was already in hand...Indy was in a soft zone defense.

Gonzo was running routes in the FIRST quarter, but nobody could hang on to the damn ball.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:56 PM   #68
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Mike Martz.....


Wait they have both coached in superbowls....


Why hasnt Marty and Herm?
They didn't get to run teams that finally took advantage of a decade of teh suckage and multiple top 5 draft picks.
Could you imagine if Marty had the benefit of 10-12 DTs and TGs?

Torry Holt, Dre Bly, Grant Wistrom, Robert Holcombe, Leonard Little, Az Hakim, Orlando Pace, Eddie Kennison, Ernie Conwell, Kevin Carter, Wayne Gandy, Isaac Bruce. Not to mention getting a disgruntled Marshall Faulk for next to nothing.

Compare that to DV's draft history with the Chiefs.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:00 PM   #69
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It wasn't just run, run, pass, punt like everyone makes it out to be. The Chiefs tried to throw early on half of its 1st half series and that didn't work either.

Was it a great gameplan? No

Was it executed well? No

The players deserve as much of the blame as Herm.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playby...0070106_KC@IND

2nd series

1-10-KC17 (8:34) T.Green pass short right to T.Gonzalez to KC 21 for 4 yards (N.Harper, C.June).
2-6-KC21 (7:57) L.Johnson up the middle to KC 22 for 1 yard (A.McFarland, G.Brackett).
3-5-KC22 (7:18) T.Green pass incomplete short left to E.Kennison.
4-5-KC22 (7:13) D.Colquitt punts 47 yards to IND 31, Center-K.Gammon, out of bounds.

5th series

1-10-KC14 (6:23) T.Green pass incomplete short left to T.Gonzalez.
2-10-KC14 (6:18) D.Hall right end to KC 22 for 8 yards (M.Jackson).
3-2-KC22 (5:34) T.Green pass incomplete short right to D.Hall.
4-2-KC22 (5:27) D.Colquitt punts 66 yards to IND 12, Center-K.Gammon. T.Wilkins to IND 31 for 19 yards (K.Fox).

6th series

1-10-KC14 (1:40) T.Green pass incomplete short right to T.Gonzalez (G.Brackett).
2-10-KC14 (1:35) (Shotgun) L.Johnson up the middle to KC 18 for 4 yards (R.Mathis, C.June).
3-6-KC18 (1:13) (Shotgun) T.Green pass short left to L.Johnson to KC 16 for -2 yards (Da.Reid).
4-8-KC16 (1:03) D.Colquitt punts 54 yards to IND 30, Center-K.Gammon. T.Wilkins to IND 35 for 5 yards (W.Kershaw).
OK..we will have to agree to disagree..I still think they were being predictable..but..I don't want to hijack this thread anymore.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:04 PM   #70
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OK..we will have to agree to disagree..I still think they were being predictable..but..I don't want to hijack this thread anymore.
You're not wrong.

The problem is that the coaches didn't START the game being predictable. They started the game by trying to do some things and the players couldn't execute.

If you want to blame Herm for something, blame him for buckling and crawling into a shell when things weren't working. But he TRIED to give it a shot and the bums we put out there on the field weren't up to it.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:09 PM   #71
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I was impressed by Norv's press conference.
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You're not wrong.

The problem is that the coaches didn't START the game being predictable. They started the game by trying to do some things and the players couldn't execute.

If you want to blame Herm for something, blame him for buckling and crawling into a shell when things weren't working. But he TRIED to give it a shot and the bums we put out there on the field weren't up to it.
yup, exactly.
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You're not wrong.

The problem is that the coaches didn't START the game being predictable. They started the game by trying to do some things and the players couldn't execute.

If you want to blame Herm for something, blame him for buckling and crawling into a shell when things weren't working. But he TRIED to give it a shot and the bums we put out there on the field weren't up to it.
That's a good point,well said.
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Nobody is mentioning that Norv mentored Cam Cameron and they run the same offense. Also Ted Cottrell was mentored by Wade Phillips (or vice versa not sure which one) and they have the same defensive playbook.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:18 PM   #75
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Nobody is mentioning that Norv mentored Cam Cameron and they run the same offense. Also Ted Cottrell was mentored by Wade Phillips (or vice versa not sure which one) and they have the same defensive playbook.


Norv is a total failure as a head coach. He is a very good OC but that is it.
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