If Clark has an ounce of sense... - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 11-25-2007, 04:54 PM

He'll dump Herm and Carl as soon as the season is over and anoint this guy as our new head coach.

Jason Garrett is young (41), offensive-minded, smart as a whip, and is going to be a hot commodity this offseason. The Cowboys are sure to lose him, and should probably dump that fat turd Wade Phillips and promote Garrett.

LOOK AT THIS PSYCHOTIC STARE.

kcchiefsus · 11-25-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

LJ is going to be completely done by 09....he's already showing signs. If anyone thinks he'll be anymore than a marginally productive Eddie George later years type by then, they are asking a ton.

And once again Cdcox is right on the money....the Chiefs should but giant band aids on their helmets it's the whole mantra of this organizations thought of how to build a team.

Give me a break. You act like his injury is due to overuse. Sorry, any runningback is going to potentially break his foot or ankle if it gets caught under a linebacker the way LJ's did.

I see no reason at all to believe he is anywhere close to done. Give him a damn line and he is back to 1,500 yard seasons. LJ and Kolby Smith could potentially be a great 1-2 punch. LJ is the tough north-south runner and Kolby Smith is the shifty one who can make runs to the outside.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-25-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

In his AFL days, Lamar had a ton of fire in his belly. The Chiefs were one of the most aggressive teams in the draft wars against the NFL. Hunt wanted to beat the NFL baaaaad. Then once the NFL was forced to take the AFL and once he one his SB, his competitive fire seemed to go out.

If Clark is like his dad, he'll want to make his own bones in the NFL. I'm still holding out hope that things will change in the next few years.

How much do you think is a result of the Hunt family almost going tits up over trying to corner the silver market?

Stinger · 11-25-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

No team goes ..... even deep into the playoffs and then turns around and fires their head coach.

Tell that to Marty Schottenhiemer

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

If the Chiefs were willing to pay him enough then there is no way they can stop us. Besides, with Dallas doing as well as they are do you think they are going to mess with a winning formula? Barring a late season collapse I think the Cowboys would be wise to stick with Phillips.

Do you reallyl think Carl and the Hunts are going to win a bidding war with Jerry Jones? I said this in another post on another thread:
... if the Chiefs offer Garrett a contract to be the Head Coach he will inherit all of their offensive struggles next year. Or he can be the OC for Dallas one more year and then take over that squad with a new stadium, a high paying GM, and one of the most recongnized franchises in the NFL. Ummm as much as I love the Chiefs I see no upside for Garrett here. Remember just because someone offers a job does not mean they will take it.

Mecca · 11-25-2007, 11:03 PM

If you don't acknowledge history you are doomed to repeat it. Heavy workload backs break down....big backs like him also break down....that's 2 strikes right away...

This organization gave RB's big contracts back to back, they didn't learn and they will pay for it.

**cdcox** · 11-25-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I wonder if people around here will then say bad things about him. I'm not old enough to remember any old times but all through my life time all I've known of Lamar Hunt is an old man that didn't seem to care that much, everyone calls him classy.

I see Jerry Jones win bowls people call him a douche, but to me at least he cares and wants to win.

If you want to get a glimpse of the young Lamar, read the book America's Game by Michael MacCambridge.

RedThat · 11-25-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I wonder if people around here will then say bad things about him. I'm not old enough to remember any old times but all through my life time all I've known of Lamar Hunt is an old man that didn't seem to care that much, everyone calls him classy.

I see Jerry Jones win bowls people call him a douche, but to me at least he cares and wants to win.

I once made a post on this board, saying that the Chiefs need a change in mentality when it comes to ownership. Just a different attitude you know?

that fireyness, competitiveness! I don't see that in Lamar. I once said that on here, that Lamar is responsible for the failures of this franchise, that the Chiefs needed a change in ownership and needed a change in attitude, and I got bashed.

Stinger · 11-25-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd be ok with giving Mike Singletary a shot.

If the Herm experiment does not pan out after year three I think this would be a very good idea.

**cdcox** · 11-25-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

How much do you think is a result of the Hunt family almost going tits up over trying to corner the silver market?

I think it was more his brothers than Lamar that were in on that scheme. I think it has more to do with that once Lamar had slaid the NFL dragon, that he no longer had a challenge that interested him. After that, it seems he left the running of the franchise more to others and concentrated on league issues.

Mecca · 11-25-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I once made a post on this board, saying that the Chiefs need a change in mentality when it comes to ownership. Just a different attitude you know?

that fireyness, competitiveness! I don't see that in Lamar. I once said that on here, that Lamar is responsible for the failures of this franchise, that the Chiefs needed a change in ownership and needed a change in attitude, and I got bashed.

I know exactly where you are coming from, the whole Chiefs attitude comes from/came from the top down. If Lamar had really been passionate about winning Peterson would have been gone years ago. We can blame Peterson all we want Lamar was the one keeping him there so it was good enough for him.

RedThat · 11-25-2007, 11:10 PM

i know this may sound stupid, but does anyone really care anymore?

I mean about this season. I hope it goes into the tank, just tank it. Lose every frikkn game. Get a top 3 pick.

Hey the Chiefs go 4-12, hopefully that'll lose fanbase, and influence ownership to make changes.

I know rooting to lose is bad. But Im looking at the potential bright sides.

I want a new FO, a new coaching staff and possibly a potential superstar in the draft.

RedThat · 11-25-2007, 11:11 PM

Lets make it clear this franchise needs a shakeup.

greg63 · 11-25-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well Garrett is aggressive.....

Something tells me Clark will be just like his dad and Carl and Herm will be back, with no pressure at all.

...Unfortunately!

On a personal note: Herm's coaching stupidity knows no limits.

Mecca · 11-25-2007, 11:13 PM

I agree with you, now I'm sure someone will say we are bad fans for that view. That how dare we want to lose for better picks.....

Beer Bacon can show up and tell us we don't want top 5 picks because they are to expensive, yes he really said that.

ChiefsCountry · 11-25-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

In his AFL days, Lamar had a ton of fire in his belly. The Chiefs were one of the most aggressive teams in the draft wars against the NFL. Hunt wanted to beat the NFL baaaaad. Then once the NFL was forced to take the AFL and once he one his SB, his competitive fire seemed to go out.

If Clark is like his dad, he'll want to make his own bones in the NFL. I'm still holding out hope that things will change in the next few years.

Also Lamar was one of the richest owners in the AFL, that made a big difference as well. Him, Bud Adams, and the Jets owner had the dollars at that time.

RedThat · 11-25-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I know exactly where you are coming from, the whole Chiefs attitude comes from/came from the top down. If Lamar had really been passionate about winning Peterson would have been gone years ago. We can blame Peterson all we want Lamar was the one keeping him there so it was good enough for him.

And honestly, and I think there are very few organizations that would keep an underachieving GM?

It's been almost 20 years that Peterson is here? Unbelievable.

I think they care about selling tickets. peterson is good enough for building 8-8 teams. But now I think he is starting to wear thin even doing that? Peterson is Good enough to make a few moves to peak the fans interest. I've seen that happen over and over from time to time.

That's why I say 4-12, 5-11 might not be bad? hopefully that'll influence Clark and say look the fans arent coming to the games anymore? we're going into the opposite direction, something is wrong we need to make changes.

I think that is what it will take? And if that is not good enough to get Peterson fired, I will never follow this team again.

As a fan, just view me as the kind of guy, that looks upon severe failure as hope? Hope for a better future, and possibly a shift into the minds that ownership can alter and change their ways of thinking a little.

I just hope that Clark is of his word. As a fan that is what I want to see. If he cares about winning then do the right thing and fire Carl and Herm the heck outta town.

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11-25-2007, 11:03 PM	#64
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	If you don't acknowledge history you are doomed to repeat it. Heavy workload backs break down....big backs like him also break down....that's 2 strikes right away... This organization gave RB's big contracts back to back, they didn't learn and they will pay for it.
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11-25-2007, 11:10 PM	#70
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	i know this may sound stupid, but does anyone really care anymore? I mean about this season. I hope it goes into the tank, just tank it. Lose every frikkn game. Get a top 3 pick. Hey the Chiefs go 4-12, hopefully that'll lose fanbase, and influence ownership to make changes. I know rooting to lose is bad. But Im looking at the potential bright sides. I want a new FO, a new coaching staff and possibly a potential superstar in the draft.
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11-25-2007, 11:11 PM	#71
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Lets make it clear this franchise needs a shakeup.
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11-25-2007, 11:13 PM	#73
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-492950	I agree with you, now I'm sure someone will say we are bad fans for that view. That how dare we want to lose for better picks..... Beer Bacon can show up and tell us we don't want top 5 picks because they are to expensive, yes he really said that.
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