Chiefs Next 4 games - Page 5

Coach · 09-30-2010, 01:03 PM

@ Indianapolis Colts - Sun, 10/10
@ Houston Texans - Sun, 10/17
Jacksonville Jaguars - Sun, 10/24
Buffalo Bills - Sun, 10/31

I figured that since we're in a bye, sitting at 3-0, I figured it wouldn't hurt to think about what is the possibility of how many wins the Chiefs can obtain within the next 4 games on the schedule.

Of the next 4 games on the schedule, how many wins do you think the Chiefs can obtain, and against who, and why?

Poll forthcoming.

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Dude, we get it. Manning is your hero and everything around him is golden.

No, and I hate to go full drafturbator...but we're not going to beat the Colts @ Indianapolis.

It's a terrible, terrible matchup for us...

We're not going to consistently beat Peyton Manning...and Matt Cassel isn't going to keep us in some sort of a "shootout"...

Now we can make a debate about Houston...I see us losing both but I can at least see us pulling off an upset there...

but we're not going to beat Indy.

Hug it Out Dan · 09-30-2010, 05:16 PM

Worst Case Scenario:
Indy - Lose
Houston - Lose
Jax - Win
Buffalo - Win

Best Case Scenario:
Indy - Lose
Houston - Win
Jax - Win
Buffalo - Win

Either way I don't see this team beating the Colts @ Indy. Maybe we'd have shot @ KC. But like what was previously said, Cassel won't be able to keep us in the game should it be a shootout. Now, could we learn from Houston's week1 win and run for 200yds and keep Manning off the field? I guess that COULD happen, but better judgement would have me believe that Indy won't allow that to happen again and given who we have at QB, they're going to try and make Cassel beat them while they have those rush ends who are extremely fast off the line on their field turf. We have a DC that has a good record against Manning, but we don't have the players he had in NE, that's for sure.

And I dont know what the Colt's reg season home record is in the past 7-8 years, but I bet it's something ridiculous. Not many teams beat them at their place in the reg season and to be honest I can't remember the last time that's happened (in a game that's mattered, ie: A lot of times the Colts wrap up their division w/ a few weeks left to play and they rest their players for the postseason etc)

LiL stumppy · 09-30-2010, 05:18 PM

2-2, possible upset with Indy.

Jacksonville won't be a easy win, and Buffalo looked better against NE than the previous games...

LiL stumppy · 09-30-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

No, and I hate to go full drafturbator...but we're not going to beat the Colts @ Indianapolis.

It's a terrible, terrible matchup for us...

We're not going to consistently beat Peyton Manning...and Matt Cassel isn't going to keep us in some sort of a "shootout"...

Now we can make a debate about Houston...I see us losing both but I can at least see us pulling off an upset there...

but we're not going to beat Indy.

Wheres the logic here?

Indy run D = Awful

KC Run O = Very Good

Indy Pass D = Decent

KC Pass O = Awful

KC Pass D = Decent enough to make a few stops.
If we run the ball, and Cassel doesn't turn it over, our D gets a few stops. Will be a very close game.

Houston has a better D, and a offense that can score just as much as Indy.

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 05:27 PM

I've watched KC the first three games...

Other than 1 long Charles run...and then garbage time yardage against San Fran when they had basically given up...

What has our running game done for us? Occasionally Charles will move the chains with a long run...TJ sets up in a lot of 3rd and shorts...

but until the gimmick plays against San Fran...we STILL weren't sustaining drives regardless of how well we were running the ball...

We are the worst 3rd down team in football (if I had to guess)...we can't figure out how to convert 3rd and short...

So yeah...lets say we get 4 yards, get 4 yards...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2?

Gain 8 yards...no gain...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2?

THE KEY TO US BEATING THE COLTS is SIMPLE...

Convert 3rd downs.

Can we do it?

Well we haven't done it yet so we'll see I guess...but that's the absolute key to the game...if we punt to them 8 times they are going to win...

Teams like Jacksonville have had success against the Colts in the past because they are great at keeping Peyton off the field...

Can Matt Cassel pick up the 3rd and shorts? If he can, we can pull out an upset...but I certainly doubt it happens.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-30-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrarian

The Texans haven't even seen a great running game yet. Indys sucks, Redskins sucks, and Dallas only ran the ball 11 times on them. Houston kicked their own ass in that game.
And I don't see them stopping our running attack.
The only threat we have at Indy is Peyton to Collie. Stop that, game over. It's not impossible.

I really, really like the way you put it.

michaelj_58 · 09-30-2010, 05:39 PM

if they pull out a miracle at indy,anything is possible.

ToxSocks · 09-30-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Contrarian

The Texans haven't even seen a great running game yet. Indys sucks, Redskins sucks, and Dallas only ran the ball 11 times on them. Houston kicked their own ass in that game.
And I don't see them stopping our running attack.
The only threat we have at Indy is Peyton to Collie. Stop that, game over. It's not impossible.

The Texans haven't seen a great run game yet because teams don't want to run the ball on them. Their passing D is so ****ing awful why bother running?

If we are going to pull off an upset, I think it's against the Colts, not the Texans. we Don't match up well with the Texans at all.

I could be wrong though, the Texans always seem to shoot themselves in the foot. They play down to their competition.

BWillie · 09-30-2010, 06:00 PM

I think we have a 70% chance to go 2-2.

10% to go 3-1 or 1-3.

5% chance to go 0-4 or 4-0.

Simple really.

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007

I think we have a 70% chance to go 2-2.

10% to go 3-1 or 1-3.

5% chance to go 0-4 or 4-0.

Simple really.

yeah I basically agree with these percentages

philfree · 09-30-2010, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I've watched KC the first three games...

Other than 1 long Charles run...and then garbage time yardage against San Fran when they had basically given up...

What has our running game done for us? Occasionally Charles will move the chains with a long run...TJ sets up in a lot of 3rd and shorts...

but until the gimmick plays against San Fran...we STILL weren't sustaining drives regardless of how well we were running the ball...

We are the worst 3rd down team in football (if I had to guess)...we can't figure out how to convert 3rd and short...

So yeah...lets say we get 4 yards, get 4 yards...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2?

Gain 8 yards...no gain...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2?

THE KEY TO US BEATING THE COLTS is SIMPLE...

Convert 3rd downs.

Can we do it?

Well we haven't done it yet so we'll see I guess...but that's the absolute key to the game...if we punt to them 8 times they are going to win...

Teams like Jacksonville have had success against the Colts in the past because they are great at keeping Peyton off the field...

Can Matt Cassel pick up the 3rd and shorts? If he can, we can pull out an upset...but I certainly doubt it happens.

We're tied at 22nd in the league on 3rd down% @ 32.5%. Atlanta is #1 at 51%. We were 50% against the 9ers.

PhilFree

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree

We're tied at 22nd in the league on 3rd down% @ 32.5%. Atlanta is #1 at 51%. We were 50% against the 9ers.

PhilFree

Ah. Thanks for the stat.

I'm amazed there are teams worse than us on 3rd down...I guess the San Fran game helped right that ship a bit...

philfree · 09-30-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Ah. Thanks for the stat.

I'm amazed there are teams worse than us on 3rd down...I guess the San Fran game helped right that ship a bit...

We went 1-11 on 3rd downs agaisnt the Chargers, 5-15 against the Browns adnthen 7-14 against the 9ers. It's early in the season for stats to have full meaning IMO but we've improved every game.

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2010, 06:44 PM

Buffalo and Jacksonville are a mess. Their QB situationa are poor, neither have a particularly effective offense or defense. I'll be shocked if the Chiefs don't beat both squads, especially considering they are home games.

I think the Chiefs split with Indy/Houston. Crennel is 7-0 against Manning and they'll have two weeks to prepare. Carr & Flowers are playing lights out and the bye week will help out Lewis and Berry tremendously.

Chiefs go 3-1 out of the next four.

-King- · 09-30-2010, 06:52 PM

Hmmm.. against the Patriots with Romeo Crennel, Manning has thrown 10 interceptions.

Lets go BFlo, BCarr, Berry, and Lewis!

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09-30-2010, 05:16 PM	#62
Hug it Out Dan Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	Worst Case Scenario: Indy - Lose Houston - Lose Jax - Win Buffalo - Win Best Case Scenario: Indy - Lose Houston - Win Jax - Win Buffalo - Win Either way I don't see this team beating the Colts @ Indy. Maybe we'd have shot @ KC. But like what was previously said, Cassel won't be able to keep us in the game should it be a shootout. Now, could we learn from Houston's week1 win and run for 200yds and keep Manning off the field? I guess that COULD happen, but better judgement would have me believe that Indy won't allow that to happen again and given who we have at QB, they're going to try and make Cassel beat them while they have those rush ends who are extremely fast off the line on their field turf. We have a DC that has a good record against Manning, but we don't have the players he had in NE, that's for sure. And I dont know what the Colt's reg season home record is in the past 7-8 years, but I bet it's something ridiculous. Not many teams beat them at their place in the reg season and to be honest I can't remember the last time that's happened (in a game that's mattered, ie: A lot of times the Colts wrap up their division w/ a few weeks left to play and they rest their players for the postseason etc) Last edited by Hug it Out Dan; 09-30-2010 at 05:35 PM..
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09-30-2010, 05:18 PM	#63
LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9913684	2-2, possible upset with Indy. Jacksonville won't be a easy win, and Buffalo looked better against NE than the previous games... __________________ I'm just cakn partna
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09-30-2010, 05:27 PM	#65
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I've watched KC the first three games... Other than 1 long Charles run...and then garbage time yardage against San Fran when they had basically given up... What has our running game done for us? Occasionally Charles will move the chains with a long run...TJ sets up in a lot of 3rd and shorts... but until the gimmick plays against San Fran...we STILL weren't sustaining drives regardless of how well we were running the ball... We are the worst 3rd down team in football (if I had to guess)...we can't figure out how to convert 3rd and short... So yeah...lets say we get 4 yards, get 4 yards...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2? Gain 8 yards...no gain...what are we going to do on 3rd and 2? THE KEY TO US BEATING THE COLTS is SIMPLE... Convert 3rd downs. Can we do it? Well we haven't done it yet so we'll see I guess...but that's the absolute key to the game...if we punt to them 8 times they are going to win... Teams like Jacksonville have had success against the Colts in the past because they are great at keeping Peyton off the field... Can Matt Cassel pick up the 3rd and shorts? If he can, we can pull out an upset...but I certainly doubt it happens.
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09-30-2010, 05:39 PM	#67
michaelj_58 Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Casino cash: $10005231	if they pull out a miracle at indy,anything is possible.
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09-30-2010, 06:00 PM	#69
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1418759	I think we have a 70% chance to go 2-2. 10% to go 3-1 or 1-3. 5% chance to go 0-4 or 4-0. Simple really.
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09-30-2010, 06:44 PM	#74
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Buffalo and Jacksonville are a mess. Their QB situationa are poor, neither have a particularly effective offense or defense. I'll be shocked if the Chiefs don't beat both squads, especially considering they are home games. I think the Chiefs split with Indy/Houston. Crennel is 7-0 against Manning and they'll have two weeks to prepare. Carr & Flowers are playing lights out and the bye week will help out Lewis and Berry tremendously. Chiefs go 3-1 out of the next four.
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09-30-2010, 06:52 PM	#75
-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $-1374257	Hmmm.. against the Patriots with Romeo Crennel, Manning has thrown 10 interceptions. Lets go BFlo, BCarr, Berry, and Lewis! __________________ 🏁
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