Reflections on a Rat****ing

['Hamas' Jenkins]

But not by the refs


First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.


If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.


The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.


It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.


Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.


That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by The_Wiz

So what are everyone's thoughts on J-Ville next week?

I think it may be the fastest game of the year time wise. Over by 2:30

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, you think it's impossible for a QB to throw a 19 yard pass in 22 seconds to get to the Red Zone?

Are you joking or high?

He could stick the ball up his butt and shoot it out of his ass that is possible as well.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I thought the 3rd and two call was brilliant. Mo used his body to screen Wilson and he was open. It's a play I expect a NFL QB to make regardless of the %'s.

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by The_Wiz

So what are everyone's thoughts on J-Ville next week?

If they can come back from two tough road losses and beat them convincingly, they're contenders. If they come out flat and lose, they're a total ****ing fluke and we might be back to square one.

A good team would beat JAX at home by at least two touchdowns coming off a loss like this one. I really hope this is a good team.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I thought the 3rd and two call was brilliant. Mo used his body to screen Wilson and he was open. It's a play I expect a NFL QB to make regardless of the %'s.

Given the debate about Brokaki quitting on the play, it needs to be GIFed up. Like WTI, I thought it **** up was on Cassel (dusts William's coat).

[Frazod]

I don't blame Cassel at all, unless that ****ing 3rd and 2 play was his idea.

Despite all the other factors, that was No. 1 reason we lost. We run for two yards, get the first down, the game is either over or so close to over that they can't get down the field to score or tie.

Shitty refs? Bad defense? Sure, they were factors. But that one call ruined us.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by The_Wiz

So what are everyone's thoughts on J-Ville next week?

Jacksonville has had our number for years. They are essential the Martyball Chiefs with less talent overall. It will be a big test. Chiefs should win, especially at Arrowhead.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Albert did a good job on Williams.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Given the debate about Brokaki quitting on the play, it needs to be GIFed up. Like WTI, I thought it **** up was on Cassel (dusts William's coat).

When I first saw it live, I thought it was a miscommunication and Moaeki stopped when Cassel thought he was supposed to keep going. Seeing the replay a couple times, I'm not so sure. Maybe it was just an overthrow. We'll probably never really know.

[Chief_in_Commander]

I haven't read through this thread or the Official game thread so if this was said then sorry, but this is entirely Cassel's fault.....On that 3rd and 2 play Cassel had a guy crossing over the middle of the field with his arm up in the air calling for the ball and Cassel had made a pre-snap decision to throw to Moeaki.....Cassel is garbage most of the time, he played better today but not good enough....simple as that

[WilliamTheIrish]

I liked the fact they put the game in Cassel's hands at that point. "Make a play". He had an open man. And seriously, how difficult was that throw? It's a toss Mark Vlasic could have made. Or DeHack.

As a disclaimer I do not blame Cassel for this loss. But I do agree that it showed very clearly what he is capable of as a NFL QB.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I liked the fact they put the game in Cassel's hands at that point. "Make a play". He had an open man. And seriously, how difficult was that throw? It's a toss Mark Vlasic could have made. Or DeHack.

As a disclaimer I do not blame Cassel for this loss. But I do agree that it showed very clearly what he is capable of a NFL QB.

I just wanted to quote this because I think it reflects my thoughts as well.

[Bearcat]

Moeaki also pulled up on the 3rd and 2 play... I know people want to blame Cassel for everything, but his throw was just a third of the fail on that play.

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I liked the fact they put the game in Cassel's hands at that point.

Man, I sure don't. I don't mind aggressive playcalling, but when you run as effortlessly as the Chiefs were today, there's no reason not to go back to that well on 3rd & 2.

[kcfanXIII]

Originally Posted by billay

So when your defense gives up 4 straight touchdowns it's the QBs fault the team loses? This is amazing logic.

this was a team loss. the defense wilted, cassel didn't show up when he was needed. there were a few questionable offensive play calls. the refs made some mistakes at very inopportune times. you can't pin this on one thing or one person. but you can't excuse mistakes by any to try and say another is to blame. in my eyes, both cassel and the defense should share equal blame, and i hope haley makes them all run gassers when they get back to kc.