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Old 11-04-2010, 03:09 PM  
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Collinsworth and Simms debate Matt Cassel
I can't believe Simms said some of the things he said.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:16 PM   #61
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I've been OK with all but two of the fourth down decisions this year. What I hate is the play call on those downs. When they have 4th and one and then try to pass when our running game is gouging the other team for 6 yards per carry, why call an obvious passing play. At least go play action if you want to pass.
Trickism. Who would believe for a second that we would throw the football in those situations? Nobody. That's who. It would be crazy.

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Trickism. Who would believe for a second that we would throw the football in those situations? Nobody. That's who. It would be crazy.

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Old 11-04-2010, 04:18 PM   #64
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Cassel doesn't have many opportunities to be clutch considering how often the Chiefs run the ball.
He has an opportunity on every third down to be clutch.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:19 PM   #65
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Of all ****ing people, Warren Sapp seemed fairly evenhanded in his evaluation. Gotta give credit where it is due, Cassle is far from being a great QB at this time but at times he has been a large factor in the teams success. Yeah yeah I know he has failed at critical times as well but don't be blind to his contributions.
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He has an opportunity on every third down to be clutch.
We ran the ball on 3rd and 6 or longer at least 3 times against Buffalo.
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We ran the ball on 3rd and 6 or longer at least 3 times against Buffalo.
Because they don't trust Cassel to make a play.

Because he shows, over and over again, that he can't do it.
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and it works like a charm too. Drive killer.
The astounding thing is the empty backfield formations when we're 4th and whatever. Honestly, Weis is killing me with that stuff.

There has to be some logic to that idea ... I guess ... doesn't there?

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Weis needs to stop being a pussy and just stop keeping Cassel on a leash. If Cassel is going to **** up...then let him **** up. I'd rather they take chances and go for big pass plays instead of the reeruned shit they do now. Weis is doing Cassel NO favors. Cassel sucks, but he doesn't suck to the point he averages only 200 ypg.

And then Weis chooses the dumbest times to throw risky passes. Why have most of the risky passes been on 3rd and short?
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Because they don't trust Cassel to make a play.

Because he shows, over and over again, that he can't do it.
No shit. That wasn't my argument. I said he was playing to the game plan...
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No shit. That wasn't my argument. I said he was playing to the game plan...
The gameplan calls for him to blow every third down pass play?
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It matters all the time, Mr. RedThat. That, I believe, is what people are upset about. It didn't have to come down to the last drive in that game. Not at all.

Collinsworth is right when he says that, with a run game like ours, we ought to be able to devastate enemy defenses with the play action. When you come in averaging 200 rushing yards a game, you should be able to destroy secondaries ... even with the intermediate passing game.

In my opinion, Cassel's worst attributes are his apparent indecisiveness and lack of pocket presence. If he weren't such a question mark in the pocket, his mechanics would improve and, as a result, so would his accuracy. Sadly, too often he takes the snap and turns into, what appears to be, a big giant-chinned doofus with a red shirt and a football.

But, he's not throwing interceptions. Although there have been a couple of lucky breaks in that department as well.

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True. And I can see where he and other fans are coming from. We should be destroying teams in the passing game w/ our powerful running attack. Our running game should make things easier for Cassel I totally understand. And if you ask me, I am not pleased at all with his entire play. I do think he needs to get better.

Cassel's indecisiveness, imo, is due to the fact he has bad tunnel vision. His problem is, he stares down receivers a lot. That needs to change. His peripheral vision needs to get better. But, Im not sure if that is something that could be taught. You either have that or you don't. On other hand, when he is confident to make throws, he makes some pretty decent throws. I think his pocket presence is inconsistent. Last year it was terrible, but it has gotten better in comparison to last year. He has developed some patience back there, the protection is better to give him more time to throw the ball, but it goes back to again, his peripheral vision is not that good. I think that plays a role in him having bad pocket presence, and making bad throws.

He definately has been lucky. Luck has certainly been on his side so far.

*My point was, overall he has been average. He is who he is. Has he been garbage at times? you sure bet. But at times he's been really good, and made some key throws to setup his team to win games. He has done a good job protecting the ball as well. Add all that up, and yeah you pretty much get an average quarterback imo. That is what Im getting at in looking at him from a broader scale as opposed to a narrow scale. We have to look at a lot of factors in order to judge who he really is.
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The astounding thing is the empty backfield formations when we're 4th and whatever. Honestly, Weis is killing me with that stuff.

There has to be some logic to that idea ... I guess ... doesn't there?

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Yep, the blame falls mostly with Weis. Cassel blows it but Weis set him up to fail too. For a guy that was supposedly a genius in NE he sure doesn't show it here.

Of course, he had Brady in NE too. But that couldn't possibly make him a better playcaller could it?
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