Chiefs You Aren't What You Are - Page 5

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-14-2010, 08:46 PM

Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic

Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well.

Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three ****ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash.

The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not.
Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch.

Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped.

Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today.

Watching this team get owned by mother****ing Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose.

Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid mother****er. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW.

That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated.

Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL

Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored.

This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally ****ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.

**dirk digler** · 11-14-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No shit?

Wow, I had no idea.

Well you acted like you didn't know we were down to a PS safety starting.

Lewis has been fighting his hamstring injury so hopefully being out the last couple of weeks he can be back this week.

Blick · 11-14-2010, 09:39 PM

I'm not a Carr fan. He's in decent position most of the time, but he's giving up a lot of catches this year...and a lot of first downs. He's the weak link in the secondary and helps keep the chains moving for the opposing offense.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So we should carry a 5 safeties just in case of injury?

Why would the Chiefs keep Washington or call up Price from the PS if Page were on the roster?

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Keeping Page on this team wasn't working. He didn't want to be here, the coaching staff didn't want him.

They ****ed with Page last year. He didn't want to be a Chief any longer but that doesn't mean that Pioli should have given into his demands, especially considering the dearth of talent at the position.

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I just don't see the use lamenting over that trade when the team had depth at the position, it just all crumbled at a bad time.

You're better than this. Depth at the position? Huh? Washington, Price and McGraw are depth? Hell, Washington and Price don't even belong on NFL roster.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-14-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Speaking of wasted 2nd round picks.....

I love this line of thinking.

Like their careers are ending after this year and there's no room for growth.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-14-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Why would the Chiefs keep Washington or call up Price from the PS if Page were on the roster?

They ****ed with Page last year. He didn't want to be a Chief any longer but that doesn't mean that Pioli should have given into his demands, especially considering the dearth of talent at the position.

You're better than this. Depth at the position? Huh? Washington, Price and McGraw are depth? Hell, Washington and Price don't even belong on NFL roster.

You're acting like the Chiefs traded him after they had all these injuries. Page basically forced their hand all of-season by not signing the tender.

Depth at free safety. Lewis and McGraw should be enough. McGraw battled concussions earlier in his career, but he's been a pretty healthy Chief for the most part.

I just don't or have ever really viewed Page as an answer except when he was playing Oakland. The fact that Pioli got much for him is a plus for me, regardless of the outcome of this game.

**dirk digler** · 11-14-2010, 09:43 PM

Page is so awesome he has been inactive for like 4 weeks

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Page is so awesome he has been inactive for like 4 weeks

This is ****ing stupid.

Are you seriously stating that Page wouldn't have played better today (or last week) than either Washington or Price?

Titty Meat · 11-14-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I love this line of thinking.

Like their careers are ending after this year and there's no room for growth.

Alright a nickelback in the 2nd round! It's awesome he can get the ball to the 25 isn't it? Maybe someday the 5'8 nickelback will play the outside CB position and prove us all wrong!

**The Bad Guy** · 11-14-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Alright a nickelback in the 2nd round! It's awesome he can get the ball to the 25 isn't it? Maybe someday the 5'8 nickelback will play the outside CB position and prove us all wrong!

What do you think it's still the late 80s in the NFL and all teams don't use mostly 3 receiver sets?

So just so I can follow your dumb ****ing logic, he has to play an outside receiver to have value?

Titty Meat · 11-14-2010, 09:48 PM

I can't believe Frank of all people would justify drafting a slow nickelback in the 2nd round when this pass rush has easily be the worst in the league the last few seasons.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-14-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is ****ing stupid.

Are you seriously stating that Page wouldn't have played better today (or last week) than either Washington or Price?

Stephon Paige would have played better than both of those guys.

Titty Meat · 11-14-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What do you think it's still the late 80s in the NFL and all teams don't use mostly 3 receiver sets?

So just so I can follow your dumb ****ing logic, he has to play an outside receiver to have value?

Some Corners can actually play inside and out great idea isn't it? And like I stated this team needed a pass rusher. Look at the garbage the Colts play in the secondary it doesn't matter know why? They have a pass rush.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-14-2010, 09:50 PM

I'm beginning to think there were conditioning issues at Ole Miss because both McCluster and Lewis haven't been able to stay healthy.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-14-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Thomas Jones is headed for brokedick status.

I haven't seen that guy make someone miss or break a tackle all year long.

Don't have issues with Carr or Belcher. Most 3-4 ILBs aren't great in coverage.

He's great at reading his blocking and getting the most out of it, but otherwise he ain't all that.

And I hate it when we run pitch plays with his 4.6 ass.

JFC, man. Sometimes you get a hold of someone you hate and don't let go. Thomas Jones wasn't the problem today. Jamaal Charles got the majority of the carries today. Jones and Charles are both good at doing different things. But to say that Jones somehow just farted his way into being on pace for a 1,000 yard season is a disservice to him.

Frankly, I don't understand why the Chiefs heavied up on Charles early in this game. I don't care how much people hate it, I think this team is at their best when they rotate their RBs in and out. Any reason why Jones saw so little time today?

**The Bad Guy** · 11-14-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

I can't believe Frank of all people would justify drafting a slow nickelback in the 2nd round when this pass rush has easily be the worst in the league the last few seasons.

I'm saying I'm not writing him off. I think he has talent and upside.

Just because the Chiefs passed on pass rushers for him doesn't mean he's a shit player.

Do they need a pass rusher? Absolutely, but i'm not writing off Arenas like he's not an important piece.

11-14-2010, 08:46 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	You Aren't What You Are Tyson Jackson is an absolute non-entity. I watched him on nearly every play he was in, and he was almost constantly dominated by either Harris or Beadles 1-1. It’s pathetic Our lack of size and depth at NT is really starting to show and it did at this point and time last year as well. Donald Washington has the worst ball skills of any secondary player I’ve ever seen. Ever. Calling him Bartee may be an insult to Bartee. On the first long catch by Lloyd, he pulled it in around the back of Washington’s helmet, and he totally blew inside coverage on Lloyd’s TD grab from Orton in the first. The 2009 draft could not have been worse. Oh well, at least his career as a starter lasted three **ing drives before he was removed for FA street trash. The challenge-non challenge was bullshit, but it probably wouldn’t have been overturned anyway. That was actually a good break, believe it or not. Hey Ricky Price: Welcome to the NFL, bitch. Cassel has the worst pocket presence of perhaps any NFL QB. He just cannot stop staring at the rush. He took a killer sack on the driver where Succop missed the 52 yarder. On Mays’ dead ball PF, He sucked the ball up and refused to throw it to either Chambers or Charles, who was wide open before Cassel tucked it and Charles slipped. Furthermore, our single-read passing system is so ridiculously limited. All of Cassel’s completions in the first portion of the game were on pre-scripted plays. We don’t just script our offense, a la a WCO, we pre-script the reads, which makes it impossible to throw downfield. Example: Cassel’s first completion, and the pass we completed to Bowe where he was instantly blown up by Mays. Moeaki was deeper and more open, but Cassel decided where he was going before the ball was snapped. Josh McDaniels pulled Romeo Crennel’s cock through his ass today. Watching this team get owned by mothering Friar Tuck should salt away any illusions we have about this team being able to “make noise” in the playoffs. The division is SD’s to lose. Cassel has to be benched after taking all of these sacks. You can throw the ball away you stupid motherer. He also totally missed Hagan blitzing. Richardson picked up the DE, Lilja double-teamed Williams, Moeaki released into the route and Cassel didn’t see any of it. Even then, he still had almost three seconds to get rid of that ball. He had Bowe wide open on the slant. Wide open. He just had to throw it where Bowe would have been and it’s 28-7 instead of 35-0. It was funny that they pulled Richardson after that play, even though it was the QB’s fault. Total sacred cow situation. O’Failaghan was terrible in relief, BTW. That goal line stand is why our running game is tremendously overrated. Jake O’Connell is still the worst player in the NFL Cassel sure looked awesome against a prevent defense, which is why we can’t blame him at all for this performance. It will be interesting to see how the dropped picks are excused (I counted at least 3) and playing against a Cover 4 is ignored. This game exposed every one of our weaknesses. The NTs got annihilated, we couldn’t generate any pressure if Hali was blocked, and our QB shit himself if his pre-scripted route was covered, taking too many sacks, missing too many easy throws, and generally **ing us, we don’t have a deep threat, and we can’t run in short-yardage situations.
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Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	I'm not a Carr fan. He's in decent position most of the time, but he's giving up a lot of catches this year...and a lot of first downs. He's the weak link in the secondary and helps keep the chains moving for the opposing offense.
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