Jim Caldwell fired, Bill/Chris Polian expected to be out as well

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nfldraftscoutMatt Miller


@StampedeBlue reporting Jim Caldwell fired, Bill/Chris Polian expected to be out as well. http://sbn.to/vndmsI


mortreportChris Mortensen


Filed to ESPN: Irsay cleans house, including Bill and Chris Polian, per league source

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

F O U R

4 1st round draft picks

And if I was Luck, I'd be very clear I'd refuse to play for a franchise that gutted themselves so thoroughly.

4 1st's is a pipe dream.

[BigChiefFan]

I seriously doubt it costs 4 1st rounders to move up 11 spots.

[ILChief]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I seriously doubt it costs 4 1st rounders to move up 11 spots.

I bet it will take 3 plus some other picks and players

[spanky 52]

I keep getting the feeling Denver will be in play for the lst pick.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

Those were Chris Polian picks, I thought.

That's just as bad as if it was Bob. Why is Chris even in that position, other than because Daddy gave him a job?

Bob Kravitz of the Indy Star did a major asshole ripping of Chris Polian earlier this year. Basically accused Chris of being the reason numerous coaches and scouts are no longer with the team, including Howard Mudd and Tom Moore. And Chris' rise in power and the absense of these people has directly coincided with the Colts' drafts getting worse.

I wonder if this has less to do with Manning and more to do with Bill not wanting to fire his boy.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by ILChief

I bet it will take 3 plus some other picks and players

According to the chart that I referenced last night, it looks like 1st and 2nd round picks this year and next, plus some other picks in different rounds.

Considering one of the picks is Luck, that theoretically means you give up a 1st rounder and a couple of second rounders, plus the other round picks, that I'm too lazy to look up.

That's a no-brainer. Hell throw in Cassel for good measure.

[Okie_Apparition]

I'm pretty sure it was Adam Schefter that put the 4 number out there

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by spanky 52

I keep getting the feeling Denver will be in play for the lst pick.

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[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

I'm pretty sure it was Adam Schefter that put the 4 number out there

That's a little vague and the compensation from every team would be different, due to the value chart of each pick.

He may have a point, if he's talking about the 32nd team moving up, but to move up 11 spots, 4 1st rounders sounds far-fetched.

[Okie_Apparition]

If you tweet he'd answer

[FloridaMan88]

The Colts shit-canned Polian and his son after one bad season. The Lambs shit-canned their GM after 3 mediocre seasons.

Take notes, Clark. A GM doesn't deserve a 20 year time-frame to get things done and should be held accountable.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50

The Lambs shit-canned their GM after 3 mediocre seasons.

10-38 over 3 seasons isn't mediocre.

[Bane]

Now they can get ready to be mediocre with Jeff Fisher.

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Irsay views Manning’s future as “family decision” not “football decision”

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 2, 2012, 4:27 PM EST

AP
When the Polians were shown the door Monday, we guessed that Colts owner Jim Irsay was at least partially choosing Peyton Manning over the team’s front office.

If nothing else, it will make it easier to keep Manning on the roster if that’s what Irsay truly wants to do. And there is no bigger fan of Peyton Manning than Jim Irsay.

Speaking on NBC SportsTalk Monday, Peter King supported this notion.

He’s heard that Irsay views Manning’s future as a “family decision” and not a “football decision.”

So what does that mean?

“It means to me that Jimmy Irsay is going to give Peyton Manning his $28 million bonus unless one of two things happen: Manning absolutely can’t play football or Manning wants out. . . . So I think Irsay has essentially put the onus on himself to make that huge decision.”

It sets up an interesting scenario for the direction of the Colts franchise. Will Irsay only hire a general manager or coach that want to work with Manning? Then again, will many coaches and general managers not want to work with a healthy Manning if Irsay is playing the freight?

Manning’s health has been lost in all the speculation. We truly have no idea if he’ll ever play pro football again. If Manning does play again, Irsay’s “family” approach to the business makes it more likely Manning will remain in Indianapolis.

[tk13]

I think there's definitely more to it than Irsay dumping him after "one bad season." Polian is probably one of the greatest executives in football history. 24 years, 17 playoff appearances. 12+ wins twelve times. If you look at his teams' records on paper, it's truly amazing.