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Old 02-26-2012, 11:38 AM  
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Rumor: Redskins prepared to offer at least 4 picks for the #2 pick.
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Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III.

If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. Source: Howard Eskin on Twitter
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:15 PM   #61
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Sorry zilla, shoudl have made it more clear, my statement was meant to say that I would trade picks if he fell a little bit, as the amount would decrease.


There really isn't any way to justify trading what you would have to to get to 2 at this point.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:16 PM   #62
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If Pioli would sign Bowe already and tag Carr to trade him to Rams plus picks, maybe we could get it done
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:17 PM   #63
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:19 PM   #64
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In what way wasn't Trent Green a winner? He would have won superbowlS if he just had an average defense. A defense forces just one punt and we would have won it in 2003.
I agree with this, he WAS good enough to win it all with the offense he lead.

Those offensive players had every right to rise up in a fiery anger & murder Peterson & Vermeil.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:23 PM   #65
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Sorry zilla, shoudl have made it more clear, my statement was meant to say that I would trade picks if he fell a little bit, as the amount would decrease.


There really isn't any way to justify trading what you would have to to get to 2 at this point.
I agree. Just pointing out for those who say we should trade multiple first day picks. It isn't just a big gamble. It is gamble that can kill a franchise for 6+ years.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:23 PM   #66
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One more easy reason the franchise tag is more valuable to use on Carr.

1.) Tag Car
2.) Trade him to the Cowboys for the 14th pick
3.) Trade 11th (1,250 pts), 14th (1,100 pts), 44th (460 pts) for the Rams 2nd (2,600 pts).
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:26 PM   #67
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I like rg3 but I saw the dude get knocked out cold by a 2nd rate college safety. What's gonna happen when its a guy like JPP?
Iowa State held him to his lowest passing totals this year if that makes you feel better.
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One more easy reason the franchise tag is more valuable to use on Carr.

1.) Tag Car
2.) Trade him to the Cowboys for the 14th pick
3.) Trade 11th (1,250 pts), 14th (1,100 pts), 44th (460 pts) for the Rams 2nd (2,600 pts).
Yeah tag Carr and let Bowe walk. That's ****ing stupid.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:33 PM   #69
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They'd be stupid to trade their whole draft for just one player.

It's not worth it. I don't care how good he is. You don't sacrifice the whole draft.
Why? We are only giving up picks 2-7. Outside of picks 2 and 3 how many times do picks from 4-7 pan out? There is a lower rate of success in those picks. Are they not worth a franchise QB? I think too much value is placed on worthless picks than what could be had with those picks.
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Why? We are only giving up picks 2-7. Outside of picks 2 and 3 how many times do picks from 4-7 pan out? There is a lower rate of success in those picks. Are they not worth a franchise QB? I think too much value is placed on worthless picks than what could be had with those picks.
Read my post above.

If the rumor is true about Washington's trade compensation, then the Chiefs will have to give up the entire 2012 draft, the first and second round picks in 2013, and likely at least a first or second in the 2014 draft.
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Yeah tag Carr and let Bowe walk. That's ****ing stupid.
Then we can just sign Randy Moss!
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Read my post above.

If the rumor is true about Washington's trade compensation, then the Chiefs will have to give up the entire 2012 draft, the first and second round picks in 2013, and likely at least a first or second in the 2014 draft.
That is significantly different than giving up the 2012 draft. Doing that will not set this franchise back 6+ years. Your scenario by giving up this draft plus picks in 2013 and 2014 would though.
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Yeah tag Carr and let Bowe walk. That's ****ing stupid.
Posted this in the other thread. It's a better value proposition to just overpay for Bowe. Who the hell cares? We can eat a front-loaded contract and we gain the value of the extra pick from tagging Carr. If the report is true, we already know the Cowboys are willing to go nuts for him.
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That is significantly different than giving up the 2012 draft. Doing that will not set this franchise back 6+ years. Your scenario by giving up this draft plus picks in 2013 and 2014 would though.
I'm not sure if we're agreeing with or disagreeing with each other.

But essentially, the 4th through 7th round is equal to about one low 3rd round pick. So giving up the entire 2012 draft alone does very little to add sweeteners to our trade offer. The sundae is in the first-second-third round picks. And the 2012 picks are the ones that matter most, because those are guaranteed top 11 picks for that round whereas in 2013, they could end up being the #25 pick.

I doubt there's any scenario where we don't give up at least 4 first day picks. I bet we have to give up 5-6.
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I'm not sure if we're agreeing with or disagreeing with each other.

But essentially, the 4th through 7th round is equal to about one low 3rd round pick. So giving up the entire 2012 draft alone does very little to add sweeteners to our trade offer. The sundae is in the first-second-third round picks. And the 2012 picks are the ones that matter most, because those are guaranteed top 11 picks for that round whereas in 2013, they could end up being the #25 pick.

I doubt there's any scenario where we don't give up at least 4 first day picks. I bet we have to give up 5-6.
We are basically agreeing. I think we need to see if Washington brings in Peyton or not before we figure out what it will take to move to #2.
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