Chiefs Would you pay Bowe $120-130M for 8 years? - Page 5

**jAZ** · 07-08-2012, 07:31 PM

According to...

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

RT @ChiefsOrioles12 Do the Chiefs get Bowe signed long term before the 16th? ... Doubt it. Believed to be seeking big-time money.

Which means...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...act-with-lions

Johnson is scheduled to earn close to $130 million over the next eight seasons, including $113.5 million over the final seven years of the deal, league sources told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

The contract includes $4.5 million in an existing roster bonus that's due on the final year of his rookie deal.

The deal also includes $53 million in guaranteed money, with Johnson's $1.25 million base salary in 2012 guaranteed, and $36 million due in signing and option bonuses. According to La Canfora, $11.5 million in future salary is guaranteed for injury only.

The contract makes Johnson -- who scorched the NFL with 96 catches for 1,681 yards and 16 touchdowns in 2011 -- the highest-paid wide receiver in league history, surpassing the eight-year, $120 million deal that Larry Fitzgerald signed with the Arizona Cardinals before last season.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-08-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I think you'd have to list the Jets as a team paying top dollar for 2 corners.

Late last night, the New York Jets signed a four-year, $34 million deal, with cornerback Antonio Cromartie.

That's not top money Carr would have turned that down.

Brock · 07-08-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

How did he nail it?

Carr got big time money from the Boys.
#1 corner money.

We have no idea what Pioli offered Carr, but I would bet top dollar he offered him a a contract that was equal to or better than the top #2 corners in the league.

I don't think they made an offer at all.

Just Passin' By · 07-08-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Late last night, the New York Jets signed a four-year, $34 million deal, with cornerback Antonio Cromartie.

That's not top money Carr would have turned that down.

He signed that last year. That was top money.

Hammock Parties · 07-08-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The Bucs are a potential contender?

Sure, they were an ass hair from the playoffs before last season.

**luv** · 07-08-2012, 08:33 PM

No way. I was going to say it depends on how much is guaranteed, but I don't think that would even matter.

**notorious** · 07-08-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

We'll have to respectfully disagree.

But then, as good as Fitz and CJ are, I think they are overpaid.

That goes back to my original point.

The only player you overpay is a franchise QB.

Every other position is expendable.

And I am a fan of Bowe (and Carr).

This.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-08-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

How did he nail it?

Carr got big time money from the Boys.
#1 corner money.

We have no idea what Pioli offered Carr, but I would bet top dollar he offered him a a contract that was equal to or better than the top #2 corners in the league.

There's the problem.

We offered a CB2 money to a CB1.

Assuming, as Brock said, we made him an offer at all.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-08-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

There's the problem.

We offered a CB2 money to a CB1.

When you have Flowers you should do that. Carr will show you this year he is no number 1.

O.city · 07-08-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Sure, they were an ass hair from the playoffs before last season.

They were awful last year.

And that year they nearly made the playoffs, didn't they play a weak schedule?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-08-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

When you have Flowers you should do that. Carr will show you this year he is no number 1.

What he does in Dallas is irrelevant.

Different defense, surrounding cast, etc.

What Carr does in Dallas doesn't change the fact he was a CB1 for the Kansas City Chiefs.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-08-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What he does in Dallas is irrelevant.

Different defense, surrounding cast, etc.

What Carr does in Dallas doesn't change the fact he was a CB1 for the Kansas City Chiefs.

i guess so when flowers was taking on the teams number 1 wr.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-08-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

i guess so when flowers was taking on the teams number 1 wr.

Laugh all you want, he's a better CB than Flowers.

I love Brandon Flowers, but he's overrated because of his run support.

Pissing match over who the better CB is aside, this is a QB-driven, passing league.

Which means 4 positions are of utmost importance:

QB: Over $10M a year average and $30M guaranteed for subpar play.

CB: Downgraded to save $3M a year when we're $30M under the cap.

WR: Potentially losing a Top 5-8 WR, again over money.

DE/OLB: Luckily, we're covered here.

1 out of 4 ain't bad, eh?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-08-2012, 08:45 PM

And FWIW, Carr and Flowers primarily played a side of the field, not a specific WR.

IIRC, Carr played the right and Flowers the left.

Brock · 07-08-2012, 08:46 PM

Regardless of whether he's a 1 or not, I have no problem with letting Carr go. I wish they could have gotten something in return. But I think investing too much money in corners would be stupid. I can't think of any team that does that.

milkman · 07-08-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What he does in Dallas is irrelevant.

Different defense, surrounding cast, etc.

What Carr does in Dallas doesn't change the fact he was a CB1 for the Kansas City Chiefs.

While I agree that Carr could have been the #1 CB in KC, the fact is, Flowers was lined up against the #1 receiver a good 80% of the time.

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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Regardless of whether he's a 1 or not, I have no problem with letting Carr go. I wish they could have gotten something in return. But I think investing too much money in corners would be stupid. I can't think of any team that does that.
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