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Old 07-11-2012, 01:07 PM  
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Why do we still have to sit through commercials?
The DirecTV/Viacom thread got me thinking.

Commercials were developed as a way for free channels to get the revenue necessary to operate, the same as radio and newspapers. Regular radio stations and many newspapers are still free to this day, so advertising is just the cost of doing business. However, most cable packages cost between $50-$80, just for “standard cable” (not including HBO, etc). My current DTV bill is $85, and I don’t have any movie channels.

We are all paying a premium for these channels, and yet 1/3 of the content is advertising. What is the difference between paying for HBO (commercial-free and unregulated language/nudity) versus (unwillingly) paying for the Viacom package of channels (commercials and FCC-regulated)?
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:51 PM   #61
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I'm sure some will find your suggestion helpful. Responding only for myself here:
1.Channel selection on Dish is for shit. Sports selection is for shit.
2. Who wants to have different boxes, channel numbers, etc. every 2 years? We have several DVRs that are chock full of movies and shows the kids watch. Wouldn't want to turn those in and lose them.
3. Fraud to save a few bucks. No thanks.
4.That isn't near enough $ for all that hassle and/or to be stuck with an inferior service for 2 years at a time.
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2) everyone should want new boxes every two years, especially with the way technology changes.
3) you wouldn't even have to switch boxes. Dtv gives you a code to watch st remotely. Ps3, iPad etc. It's even in hd. That's not "fraud"...it's allowed.
4) I can respect that.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:51 PM   #62
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I agree with #1
2) everyone should want new boxes every two years, especially with the way technology changes.
3) you wouldn't even have to switch boxes. Dtv gives you a code to watch st remotely. Ps3, iPad etc. It's even in hd. That's not "fraud"...it's allowed.
4) I can respect that.
Fair enough. You know your shit and those that are interested would do well to conduct their business through you where possible.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:59 PM   #63
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Cable companies have to pay for the technicians, the DVR boxes, the customer service support, etc.... etc... etc...

TV stations have to make money in order to pay actors, directors, and producers for TV shows and to earn the rights to televise live sports games.

Unless you're suggesting that the better alternative is to pay for every single sports game you watch. Or pay for every minute you browse through 100 channels.

And having ability to watch TV or read the newspaper isn't a necessity. If you don't' want it, nobody's going to have their lives ruined. If you think it's too expensive, don't pay for it. If you're paying that much money, it means you think it's worth spending money on. Businesses have every right to make money.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:09 PM   #64
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I’m surprised to hear the “just DVR it” from sports fans. When’s the last time you waited to start a Chiefs game to skip the commercials?
I do it 2-3x a year. I'll go tailgate at Arrowhead then drive home at noon. Kickoff is at 12:30 and I get to skip commercials in the first half.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:15 PM   #65
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Cable companies have to pay for the technicians, the DVR boxes, the customer service support, etc.... etc... etc...
There is a charge for installation. And for the DVR boxes. That’s how a $35 package becomes $85.


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TV stations have to make money in order to pay actors, directors, and producers for TV shows and to earn the rights to televise live sports games.
They do that with advertising. Why are conglomerates like Viacom fleecing DTV for a hike in rates (that will ultimately be paid by the customers) when they can sell a SB commercial for $5 million per minute?


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Unless you're suggesting that the better alternative is to pay for every single sports game you watch. Or pay for every minute you browse through 100 channels.
The only reason we have 100 channels is because of the bundling that is forced on us by the Viacoms of the world. It’s the only way they can get any money for the crap channels no one wants. As has been stated multiple times in this thread, people will gladly cut it down to 5-10 channels if they got any price break for it.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:18 PM   #66
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Maybe if they offered a la carte programming, I wouldn't have to pay for stupid channels.
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An EXCELLENT idea, Only pay for what you watch... I agree 100%
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Its been discussed ad nausem around here but the general consensus is the reason they bundle is so they can offer it to you cheaper.

If they offered ala carte, then the subscriber rates would get jacked up to like $4 or $5 a channel.


They won't do it because they can't. They make money off of the crap channels that almost no one would ever pay for, like the Home Shopping channels. They also make money off of the niche channels that have almost no audience at all. If they used a la carte billing they would lose too much money.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:31 PM   #67
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BTW how much is this NFLST gonna cost on the PS3 and is it in HD? I have asked this question before about the HD but don't remember the answer
I had it last year and it is HD, but not as good as a blu-ray or something.

Also sometimes it's choppy.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:38 PM   #68
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Cable companies pay fees to networks so they can show their programming. That certainly doesn't cover the cost of that programming. If you as the customer want to cover that then you will pay much more for cable. I recall a few years ago that cable companies would sell advertising time on the networks they showed. The networks pitched a fit about that and rightly so. Would you rather go the UK way where they collect a tax on your TV?
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I had it last year and it is HD, but not as good as a blu-ray or something.

Also sometimes it's choppy.
It can't be as good as bluray because network TV is not broadcast in 1080p.
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I’m surprised to hear the “just DVR it” from sports fans. When’s the last time you waited to start a Chiefs game to skip the commercials?

Also, they are getting more intrusive with their advertising, like the animated promos in the corners, and a lot of those are starting to have sound on top of whatever you are watching.
I dont mind commercials during sports. That gives me piss breaks, burger break and what not.

I know here on the west coast i gotta be up at damn 10am. My sleeping schedule isnt normal, so, when the football game comes on, im ususally just getting up. I need them commercials so i can get my porn piss in and some breakfast. lol
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:52 PM   #71
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I dont mind commercials during sports. That gives me piss breaks, burger break and what not.

I know here on the west coast i gotta be up at damn 10am. My sleeping schedule isnt normal, so, when the football game comes on, im ususally just getting up. I need them commercials so i can get my porn piss in and some breakfast. lol
That would be perfect... set the DVR for 10am, wake up around 11, start watching at 11:30, and be done with it by 1.

I should move.
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That would be perfect... set the DVR for 10am, wake up around 11, start watching at 11:30, and be done with it by 1.

I should move.
Admittedly that part is good. But imagine Monday night football starting at freaking 5:00 pm. That took me a couple years to get used to.
Now I'm hammered and home by 9 on Mondays.
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Admittedly that part is good. But imagine Monday night football starting at freaking 5:00 pm. That took me a couple years to get used to.
Now I'm hammered and home by 9 on Mondays.
And the fact that you have friends from other places, and they want to watch the Vikings game or the Giants or Colts.

And your fantasy team updates kill the DVR dream. That's the REAL problem.
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And the fact that you have friends from other places, and they want to watch the Vikings game or the Giants or Colts.

And your fantasy team updates kill the DVR dream. That's the REAL problem.
fantasy football is killing the Sunday experience.
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