Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

[DementedLogic]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

much to do about nothing.

a % of bill never made sense to me.
An expensive restarurant would create more tip for the server than the one working at IHOP.
Other than carrying a more expensive plate of food what does the high priced server do that the lower priced server doesn't?
So those of you who are in the food service business, please help me out.
I would rather tip on effort vs. the price of the meal.

You should receive much better service at an expensive restaurant than a lower end restaurant.

I wait tables at a steak and seafood restaurants. I consider myself a very good waiter, and I know that if that wasn't true, I wouldn't have my job. I am the only waiter at my restaurant with less than 10 years of server experience. (I am only waiting tables through college) I worked at 2 restaurants back in high school, Chappell's in NKC was one of them. I can assure you that the servers where I work now are better than any of the servers at ether of the restaurants that I worked at in Kansas City. We also provide a lot more services. Tables automatically get water, every meal gets a salad (which the servers make) and fresh bread, fresh ground pepper is offered with each course, and we package the leftover food. You won't get most of those services at Applebee's. You will never have an empty glass or empty plate in front of you, and you will never have to flag down your server for your check. I am disappointed if I do not make more than 20% in tips at the end of the night. I also tip out 30% of what I make to the busser, bartender, and kitchen staff.

If you are getting equivalent service at IHOP as you do at Jack Stack, the person at IHOP should be looking for a better job, or the person at Jack Stack should be fired. I quit going to IHOP because the service was so poor.

[Lono]

Why should a restaurant be allowed to make you pay a tip? I tip pretty generously if my server is good but I don't like the "you have to tip this amount". That usually means, my drink stays unfilled and they don't give you near as much service as the guy next door who they have to suck up to so they get a tip.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Lono

Why should a restaurant be allowed to make you pay a tip? I tip pretty generously if my server is good but I don't like the "you have to tip this amount". That usually means, my drink stays unfilled and they don't give you near as much service as the guy next door who they have to suck up to so they get a tip.

Usually the tip gratuity added to a party over 8 is meant to include the additional support from the wait staff and kitchen in ensuring the large party's needs are met. As a former waiter, once the guest number is over 5 or 6, it becomes very difficult to get everything done by yourself. Not to mention the additional busing staff.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Lono

Why should a restaurant be allowed to make you pay a tip? I tip pretty generously if my server is good but I don't like the "you have to tip this amount". That usually means, my drink stays unfilled and they don't give you near as much service as the guy next door who they have to suck up to so they get a tip.

It's part of the bill, that's why. They can charge whatever they want. It's the price you pay for overloading them with a large group.

If it's added into the bill, then pay it. If it's not, then I definitely agree with not tipping if you don't want to.

[Lono]

Originally Posted by loochy

It's part of the bill, that's why. They can charge whatever they want. It's the price you pay for overloading them with a large group.

If it's added into the bill, then pay it. If it's not, then I definitely agree with not tipping if you don't want to.

Over loading them with a large group.... Lol you're telling me they would rather not have a large group? They make money by the amount of people coming into the restaurant ordering food. I have taken 40-50 kids to eat during season and they don't ever charge us gratuity. If they did we wouldn't go there. I do however make each kid leave $2 which equals a pretty good pay day for the waiters.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Lono

Over loading them with a large group.... Lol you're telling me they would rather not have a large group? They make money by the amount of people coming into the restaurant ordering food. I have taken 40-50 kids to eat during season and they don't ever charge us gratuity. If they did we wouldn't go there. I do however make each kid leave $2 which equals a pretty good pay day for the waiters.

Are you serious? Of course they'd rather have multiple tables with different cook times as opposed to a table with 40 ****ing kids...

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Lono

Over loading them with a large group.... Lol you're telling me they would rather not have a large group? They make money by the amount of people coming into the restaurant ordering food. I have taken 40-50 kids to eat during season and they don't ever charge us gratuity. If they did we wouldn't go there. I do however make each kid leave $2 which equals a pretty good pay day for the waiters.

They probably groan and curse every time they see you enter with your 40 little heathen brats.

[Lono]

Originally Posted by Fish

They probably groan and curse every time they see you enter with your 40 little heathen brats.

Actually, they offered us a better price than normal and I was complimented multiple times on how well behaved of a group I had. Even had another customer stop at my table to compliment them. I'm fortunate to have some well behaved "heathens".

[Johnny Vegas]

Originally Posted by Lono

Over loading them with a large group.... Lol you're telling me they would rather not have a large group? They make money by the amount of people coming into the restaurant ordering food. I have taken 40-50 kids to eat during season and they don't ever charge us gratuity. If they did we wouldn't go there. I do however make each kid leave $2 which equals a pretty good pay day for the waiters.

where at pizza hut?

[Lono]

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

where at pizza hut?

It was actually a Chinese place.

[DementedLogic]

Originally Posted by Lono

Over loading them with a large group.... Lol you're telling me they would rather not have a large group? They make money by the amount of people coming into the restaurant ordering food. I have taken 40-50 kids to eat during season and they don't ever charge us gratuity. If they did we wouldn't go there. I do however make each kid leave $2 which equals a pretty good pay day for the waiters.

On a slower week night, I would prefer a large group. On a Friday or Saturday when I can keep a full section and turn tables over quickly, I would rather have the smaller tables. Large tables (>12 people) rarely tip more than 20%, whereas I average more than 20% on small tables. I have only placed automatic gratuity on one large party, and that was because I was advised to do so by a member of the party.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by Lono

Why should a restaurant be allowed to make you pay a tip? I tip pretty generously if my server is good but I don't like the "you have to tip this amount". That usually means, my drink stays unfilled and they don't give you near as much service as the guy next door who they have to suck up to so they get a tip.

Because while she is taking care of 20 people in your group, she is not taking care of the other tables she normaly would be. It protects servers from assholes like those in the op.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by kepp

I only tip 20% if the service is top-notch. 15% is my usual.

Yep. I start at 15 and go up or down depending on service. And I'm jist as apt to talk to a manager to praise outstanding service as I am to complain about really poor service. And the few times I've complained, I've paid the bill first - I'm not trying to get a free meal.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Yep. I start at 15 and go up or down depending on service. And I'm jist as apt to talk to a manager to praise outstanding service as I am to complain about really poor service. And the few times I've complained, I've paid the bill first - I'm not trying to get a free meal.

But you do gladly accept the gift card to use on your next visit

[KCUnited]

Our father always preached 20%, but 15% seems to be the standard.