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Old 11-20-2013, 11:47 AM  
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Famous Jameis...Rapist?
Don't know if you're following the Jameis Winston rape coverup - but seems like a pretty dirty deal happening down in Tampa.

New statement from the victim's family...
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2013/PDFs/winston.pdf
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:45 PM   #61
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I guess. They did a rape kit. There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.
Well that settles it. He's obviously guilty.
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:53 PM   #62
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Well that settles it. He's obviously guilty.
I am not saying he is or isn't. Simply that they wouldn't be pursuing rape charges if the rape kit did not reveal penetration. It could have been consensual. That said, this all looks REALLY bad for Mr. Winston.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #63
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:45 PM   #64
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I understand, but it is sad that we can't just believe a woman when she says she was raped. Other women have to ruin it by being reeruned.
It's not the other women who ruin it. It's the culture of blaming the victim.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:00 PM   #65
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
She went to the police with it...
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:30 PM   #66
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
Yeah, because that is what every college girl is looking for.....consensually sleep with a guy with the thought he might be famous someday and she can change her mind and yell rape.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:34 PM   #67
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Yeah, because that is what every college girl is looking for.....consensually sleep with a guy with the thought he might be famous someday and she can change her mind and yell rape.
If this is it she is good at this game.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:41 PM   #68
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The guy was probably plastered , banged the bitch once at a party now she is screaming rape to get a cash handout from the University.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:13 PM   #69
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It's not the other women who ruin it. It's the culture of blaming the victim.
Women who lie about being raped don't cause the credibility of all rape allegations to come into question?
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:22 PM   #70
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It's tricky with this, if you say she is just looking for attention it makes it seem like you don't take rape seriously. USA Today said the other day that a poll recently showed that 80% of women who are assaulted don't report it. I mean I could understand if a guy threatened your life, but it seems implausible that she got raped, was told that if she told people that her life would become miserable, waits a year, tells anyways while he's the front runner for the Heisman and more popular now than ever before. I personally think it was consensual and she's looking for the attention or some kind of settlement or something but honestly, a guy in college rapes me I'm going to the police with it. To not report it just makes her look more foolish imo.
Um, she did go to the police right away. Did you not read the OP?
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Yeah, because that is what every college girl is looking for.....consensually sleep with a guy with the thought he might be famous someday and she can change her mind and yell rape.
It's like the stock market in a way...**** low, claim rape high...
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Women who lie about being raped don't cause the credibility of all rape allegations to come into question?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:17 PM   #73
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Women who lie about being raped don't cause the credibility of all rape allegations to come into question?
No. Not only no, but hell no. The number of women who lie is so small as to be effectively irrelevant.
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So it happened Dec. 2012? He wasn't on anyones radar at that time, he's a RSF, why cover up for a freshman nobody? The "family" attorney is family, it's her aunt and an UF grad go figure.
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No. Not only no, but hell no. The number of women who lie is so small as to be effectively irrelevant.
So you are nearly 100% certain that he raped her. That is what you are saying. The chances of her lying about are so small as to be effectively irrelevant.
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