Chiefs Covitz: Eric Fisher still not cleared for full practice sessions - Page 5

**RealSNR** · 05-28-2014, 08:16 AM

The injury occurred before the end of the season.

Why didn't we just IR him and get the doctors to do both surgeries ASAP?

Instead Fisher dawdled until February/March to have the procedures done, taking away valuable offseason time to gain strength

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-28-2014, 08:28 AM

With the way Marcellus gapes on here you'd think Zed was daggering his asshole daily.

Pablo · 05-28-2014, 08:50 AM

Soft and oft-injured at 1.1.

Sounds like the Chiefs luck.

LOCOChief · 05-28-2014, 08:51 AM

The big issue is a shoulder injury, can't strength train with it and it will make putting good weight on difficult. He needs both to have a chance.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-28-2014, 08:58 AM

The Chiefs could have chosen any player in that draft last year and it wouldn't have made them any worse than picking Eric Fisher. He had no positive impact on the team. Drafting a QB and stowing him, or picking a fifth WR leaves the 2013 Chiefs just the same.

Obviously, you hope he improves, but to act like there was a worse pick out there for year one is just ****ing moronic

IamBATMAN · 05-28-2014, 09:04 AM

IIRC didn't albert sit a few games last year with a sprained knee in the second half of the season last year? And during that time the offensive line did fairly well in keeping up the avg points of 35+. All the drama about this line I think is a little overrated. If fisher fails at LT early on Andy will make the change. Stephenson at left and fisher back at right is very similar to the same line we used last year to cover for albert. I'm not going to put the white flag up on Fisher just yet, but I am confident that if Alex starts taking repitive beatings back there Andy will shift things around.

**the Talking Can** · 05-28-2014, 09:26 AM

the only benefit we've derived from drafting fisher with the #1 pick in the draft (....sorry....still get sick at the thought...just a sec)

...is that we have forever ended the stupid argument about QBs being 'risky' and OL being 'safe'

every pick is a risk, the idea of a safe pick is a lie

by 'safe' people have always just been saying they want to draft of a position of less importance than QB (True Fans)...which is, of course, absurd

jd1020 · 05-28-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

the only benefit we've derived from drafting fisher with the #1 pick in the draft (....sorry....still get sick at the thought...just a sec)

...is that we have forever ended the stupid argument about QBs being 'risky' and OL being 'safe'

every pick is a risk, the idea of a safe pick is a lie

by 'safe' people have always just been saying they want to draft of a position of less importance than QB (True Fans)...which is, of course, absurd

Safe pick or not, it's not going to stop the Chiefs from going out of their ****ing way to make sure they beef up the line with top picks and save the playmaker positions for last.

tecumseh · 05-28-2014, 09:31 AM

Hopefully, Chiefs staff are holding him back abit so there are no medical excuses come spring training. That being said , I can't see how he owns the LT spot without serious improvement. Reid's gotta know this and is maybe "baby stepping" him along to avoid the egg.

ChiefsLV · 05-28-2014, 09:42 AM

I have never believed in the idea of a safe pick. Looking back over the past twenty years of drafts and seeing all the 1.1's who were busts or left after their first contract is mind bottling

. Hell look at all the first round busts. It's a crap shoot.

**Rausch** · 05-28-2014, 09:43 AM

I'm shocked...

**notorious** · 05-28-2014, 09:52 AM

I hope I am dead wrong.

It would be my pleasure.

ThaVirus · 05-28-2014, 10:16 AM

If able to re-draft at this point, which is admittedly too soon to say definitively, I'd take a number of players over Fisher. Not only a number of non-OL, but several OL as well. At this point in time, it looks like an absolute waste of a pick..

This team with Vaccaro, Sheldon Richardson, Lotululei, Eric Reid, Mingo, etc would have been far better off up to this point.

Shit, even having a guy like Geno waiting in the wings would give us insurance in the Alex Smith deal. Tavon Austin, despite not really having #1 potential, would do some crazy ****ing things in the return game with Toub coaching him.

saphojunkie · 05-28-2014, 10:22 AM

"Off season" surgery would - by definition - happen at least in February. And you are all freaking out that a dude who had surgery in February isn't cleared for full contact in May.

My god there's so much stupid nonsense from otherwise smart people it's shocking.

I'm not talking to you, Inmem. You're just a ****ing twat all the time, so it's expected of you.

TEX · 05-28-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

"Off season" surgery would - by definition - happen at least in February. And you are all freaking out that a dude who had surgery in February isn't cleared for full contact in May.

My god there's so much stupid nonsense from otherwise smart people it's shocking.

I'm not talking to you, Inmem. You're just a ****ing twat all the time, so it's expected of you.

REP!

05-28-2014, 08:28 AM	#2
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05-28-2014, 08:50 AM	#3
Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $1729356	Soft and oft-injured at 1.1. Sounds like the Chiefs luck.
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05-28-2014, 08:51 AM	#4
LOCOChief True Chiefs Fan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bull Bay Casino cash: $6605791	The big issue is a shoulder injury, can't strength train with it and it will make putting good weight on difficult. He needs both to have a chance.
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05-28-2014, 08:58 AM	#5
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7959572	The Chiefs could have chosen any player in that draft last year and it wouldn't have made them any worse than picking Eric Fisher. He had no positive impact on the team. Drafting a QB and stowing him, or picking a fifth WR leaves the 2013 Chiefs just the same. Obviously, you hope he improves, but to act like there was a worse pick out there for year one is just ****ing moronic __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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05-28-2014, 09:04 AM	#6
IamBATMAN Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9965205	IIRC didn't albert sit a few games last year with a sprained knee in the second half of the season last year? And during that time the offensive line did fairly well in keeping up the avg points of 35+. All the drama about this line I think is a little overrated. If fisher fails at LT early on Andy will make the change. Stephenson at left and fisher back at right is very similar to the same line we used last year to cover for albert. I'm not going to put the white flag up on Fisher just yet, but I am confident that if Alex starts taking repitive beatings back there Andy will shift things around.
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05-28-2014, 08:16 AM	#1
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2070208	The injury occurred before the end of the season. Why didn't we just IR him and get the doctors to do both surgeries ASAP? Instead Fisher dawdled until February/March to have the procedures done, taking away valuable offseason time to gain strength
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05-28-2014, 09:26 AM	#7
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	the only benefit we've derived from drafting fisher with the #1 pick in the draft (....sorry....still get sick at the thought...just a sec) ...is that we have forever ended the stupid argument about QBs being 'risky' and OL being 'safe' every pick is a risk, the idea of a safe pick is a lie by 'safe' people have always just been saying they want to draft of a position of less importance than QB (True Fans)...which is, of course, absurd __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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05-28-2014, 09:31 AM	#9
tecumseh Veteran Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sweet Spot Casino cash: $9990615	Hopefully, Chiefs staff are holding him back abit so there are no medical excuses come spring training. That being said , I can't see how he owns the LT spot without serious improvement. Reid's gotta know this and is maybe "baby stepping" him along to avoid the egg.
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05-28-2014, 09:42 AM	#10
ChiefsLV Starter Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $6972003	I have never believed in the idea of a safe pick. Looking back over the past twenty years of drafts and seeing all the 1.1's who were busts or left after their first contract is mind bottling . Hell look at all the first round busts. It's a crap shoot.
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05-28-2014, 09:52 AM	#12
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05-28-2014, 10:16 AM	#13
ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1792369	If able to re-draft at this point, which is admittedly too soon to say definitively, I'd take a number of players over Fisher. Not only a number of non-OL, but several OL as well. At this point in time, it looks like an absolute waste of a pick.. This team with Vaccaro, Sheldon Richardson, Lotululei, Eric Reid, Mingo, etc would have been far better off up to this point. Shit, even having a guy like Geno waiting in the wings would give us insurance in the Alex Smith deal. Tavon Austin, despite not really having #1 potential, would do some crazy ****ing things in the return game with Toub coaching him.
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05-28-2014, 10:22 AM	#14
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4546550	"Off season" surgery would - by definition - happen at least in February. And you are all freaking out that a dude who had surgery in February isn't cleared for full contact in May. My god there's so much stupid nonsense from otherwise smart people it's shocking. I'm not talking to you, Inmem. You're just a ****ing twat all the time, so it's expected of you.
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