2016 NFL Draft: Cornerbacks - Page 5

kccrow · 01-28-2016, 09:02 PM

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DJ's left nut · 03-23-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'm not sold on Apple.

I mean what kind of corner back has a last name thats a fruit? Sure, it's the fruit that taught us about gravity, but still.

SNR has already pointing out that arguably the best DBs in Chiefs history have been named after a fruit.

Cherry and Berry. Apple just fits.

(Note: I'm passing on the opportunity to point out that you likely consume Peters in the same fashion the rest of us consume produce on account of not wanting people to lump me in with condescending dickbags like yourself)

CleveSteve · 03-23-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

SNR has already pointing out that arguably the best DBs in Chiefs history have been named after a fruit.

Cherry and Berry. Apple just fits.

(Note: I'm passing on the opportunity to point out that you likely consume Peters in the same fashion the rest of us consume produce on account of not wanting people to lump me in with condescending dickbags like yourself)

O.city · 03-23-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

SNR has already pointing out that arguably the best DBs in Chiefs history have been named after a fruit.

Cherry and Berry. Apple just fits.

(Note: I'm passing on the opportunity to point out that you likely consume Peters in the same fashion the rest of us consume produce on account of not wanting people to lump me in with condescending dickbags like yourself)

Shit youre right. Although, technically, a Berry isn't really a fruit on it's own. I mean, what kind of berry?

And no, I've never fully consumed a Peter.

smith11 · 03-24-2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'm not sold on Apple.

I mean what kind of corner back has a last name thats a fruit? Sure, it's the fruit that taught us about gravity, but still.

i hear a falcons coach asked him if he was a fruit

DJ's left nut · 03-24-2016, 11:04 AM

Steelers took a keen interest in Jackson today. GM evidently spent some time with his agent as well.

RunKC · 03-24-2016, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Steelers took a keen interest in Jackson today. GM evidently spent some time with his agent as well.

They took him to dinner last night and the guy just ran in the 4.2 range. No way is here there at 28.

Xavein Howard is most likely IMO. Chris Ballard went to the pro day and spoke to him.

O.city · 03-24-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They took him to dinner last night and the guy just ran in the 4.2 range. No way is here there at 28.

Xavein Howard is most likely IMO. Chris Ballard went to the pro day and spoke to him.

Ballard was also at Jacksons pro day.

Man, Jackson is really interesting. He'd be my pick if he's there.

I'm officially endorsing it. O.city is in.

RunKC · 03-24-2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Ballard was also at Jacksons pro day.

Man, Jackson is really interesting. He'd be my pick if he's there.

I'm officially endorsing it. O.city is in.

I want him too, but it's hard to believe he'll be there at 28.

**the Talking Can** · 03-24-2016, 01:02 PM

mcshay's latest has us taking jackson in first, braxton miller in 2nd

good chance neither will be there

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/3...ty-chiefs-fans

DJ's left nut · 03-24-2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They took him to dinner last night and the guy just ran in the 4.2 range. No way is here there at 28.

Xavein Howard is most likely IMO. Chris Ballard went to the pro day and spoke to him.

Man I hope they don't go that route.

That's a need pick and a serious reach, IMO. It breaks from a pretty established track record from Dorsey and that's the kind of move that caps an organization.

I don't see Howard as a first round talent at all. Shit, his measurables don't even look like a 3rd round pick. Slower than average, weaker than average, less agile, less explosive. From a strictly measurables standpoint, he's not even an NFL player, let alone a first round pick.

Do not want in the first OR second rounds.

O.city · 03-24-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Man I hope they don't go that route.

That's a need pick and a serious reach, IMO. It breaks from a pretty established track record from Dorsey and that's the kind of move that caps an organization.

I don't see Howard as a first round talent at all. Shit, his measurables don't even look like a 3rd round pick. Slower than average, weaker than average, less agile, less explosive. From a strictly measurables standpoint, he's not even an NFL player, let alone a first round pick.

Do not want in the first OR second rounds.

Louis Riddick is a big fan of his. I consider Louis a pretty good guy to follow, but man, i don't really see it with Howard either. He got beat up alot at BU.

staylor26 · 03-24-2016, 03:51 PM

If we're going to "reach" for a CB it better be Artie Burns.

He's raw, but he's got the measurables (h/w/s) and ball skills to justify it.

I agree with DJ on Howard.

DJ's left nut · 03-24-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

If we're going to "reach" for a CB it better be Artie Burns.

He's raw, but he's got the measurables (h/w/s) and ball skills to justify it.

I agree with DJ on Howard.

And even Burns feels like a reach but at least its one of those 'he won't be there with my next pick' reaches that I think you can grit your teeth and justify.

Burns is probably a mid-2nd guy that we won't have a shot at if we don't take at 28. My preference would still be take BPA and figure out how to deal with CB when the late 2nd gets there, but I could live with Burns at 28.

Howard, OTOH, would just be ghastly. I'd rather take Coleman or Fuller at 28 and Bradberry at the back of the 2nd, even though I think that's early for Bradberry as well. Maybe trade back with your 2nd rounder at that point (I still wouldn't trade my 1st due to the super high value of that 5th year option).

DJ's left nut · 03-24-2016, 04:01 PM

Hell, at first blush, I'd take Bradberry in the FIRST before I'd take Howard.

Bradberry is at least a potential Sean Smith clone. And he's a guy that I still think may have to convert to safety despite being taller, stronger, having a better reach, running a better 40, having a better 3-cone time, better 'explosion' scores given his broad jump and vertical leap at a higher weight....physically, Bradberry is better across the board.

And as I look at Howards tape, I don't see a damn thing that impresses me. You can try to argue that Baylor strung him out and perhaps they did, but he still didn't do anything WELL.

So when the physical tools aren't much and the tape is bad, just exactly what is it that you're going by to lead you to draft this guy in the first round?

O.city · 03-24-2016, 04:30 PM

I think we should just cross our dicks that Apple or more preferentially, Jackson, is sitting there when we pick.

Jackson at 28 and Braxton in the 2nd owuld be cool. Or Jackson then the DL from MSSU

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03-24-2016, 04:01 PM	#74
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-650901	Hell, at first blush, I'd take Bradberry in the FIRST before I'd take Howard. Bradberry is at least a potential Sean Smith clone. And he's a guy that I still think may have to convert to safety despite being taller, stronger, having a better reach, running a better 40, having a better 3-cone time, better 'explosion' scores given his broad jump and vertical leap at a higher weight....physically, Bradberry is better across the board. And as I look at Howards tape, I don't see a damn thing that impresses me. You can try to argue that Baylor strung him out and perhaps they did, but he still didn't do anything WELL. So when the physical tools aren't much and the tape is bad, just exactly what is it that you're going by to lead you to draft this guy in the first round? __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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03-24-2016, 04:30 PM	#75
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	I think we should just cross our dicks that Apple or more preferentially, Jackson, is sitting there when we pick. Jackson at 28 and Braxton in the 2nd owuld be cool. Or Jackson then the DL from MSSU
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