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Cam Newton released by Patriots
I mean, he was pretty bad last year - but outright release? Wow.
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Afterall, you've brought players into this system that complement it and/or built the system around those players. If your offense is designed to capitalize on a certain supporting cast and your backup is better served with a completely different supporting cast, you're doing yourself and that supporting cast a disservice. And it's only heightened if it's over 4 games. If your backup is 80% of your starter but the rest of the offense can play the same style of game, then your overall decline isn't extreme. But if your backup is, let's say, 90% as good as your starter (in a vacuum) but the rest of your offense is now 80% as productive because you're playing an entirely different style, it's a net loss. Your backup needs to complement the roster. That's what Henne does here. But would Cam Newton be a useful backup here? No, not at all, because the entire supporting cast would have to play differently to complement Newton. 3 quarter or 3 games, I'd take the guy that complements the rest of my squad over someone who needs players tailored to fit his style 100 times out of 100.
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Cam was an insurance policy. Now that they’ve seen enough of Jones to like him (every preseason drive he led turned into points), when you add:
- Cam’s unvaccinated state and protocol “misstep” - Injury possibility as a running QB - Distraction - Totally different style of play making it hard to build a team around both - Age - Ceiling It was shocking an hour ago but makes more and more sense. |
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If Jones just clearly couldn't play yet, then the twin-tight, possession WR offense they put together in the off-season could be massaged to fit Newton over 17 games. They could've asked those guys to be physical and work with a strict ground/pound system. But when it was clear that Jones could play, they saw that they may be able to pivot to the style they played when Gronk/Hernandez were there and they had those underneath options out wide. Obviously not to the same extreme as they did with Brady, but they could use that baseline. If they HAD to go with Newton, they could've made it work. But once it became apparent that they didn't have to, there was no need to retain him.
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Watch NE win that division over the Bills with Mac Jones at QB.
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No surprise. He's cooked. His arm just doesn't look the same. And he's lost any kind of swagger or interest.
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Cams a ****ing headcase.
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He’s always been overrated. Whatever talent he had in his arm never translated fully to the field. He had one elite season which ended with a low effort play in the Super Bowl defining it, and has not really had a remarkable career otherwise. And of course everyone will point to the lack of maturity, even now toward the end of his career. There was a lot of potential there that was never realized.
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If Cam was willing to play for the veteran's minimum and would not be a distraction and would follow all protocols... he would be an interesting option as a Taysom Hill-type gadget player for situational plays such as short yardage and goal line.
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