Chiefs Should we have played Henne the entire 2nd half? - Page 5

htismaqe · 01-23-2023, 08:40 AM

I keep seeing on social media that Chiefs fans are pissed at Mahomes and Reid and insist that Henne should have played the rest of the game.

I have to ask the Planet their opinion because I don't get it. It's the playoffs, it's win or go home. I don't see us winning that game with Henne because that last TD to MVS was pure Mahomes, Henne doesn't make that throw. Nor does he make a couple of the throws leading up to it.

**Bearcat** · 01-23-2023, 09:37 AM

Chiefs do have the best quarterback from Michigan in this year's playoffs, even if he did play there in the 80s.

smithandrew051 · 01-23-2023, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Let me say this:

I am so thankful for CP. It's really nice to come back here and see real football talk from people who actually know the game.

We also have Quesadilla Joe

DJ's left nut · 01-23-2023, 09:42 AM

I mean we won, so no.

You don't 'take points off the board' so to speak. Survive and advance - we advanced and there's no way of knowing if we would've with Henne in there.

But full disclosure: I'd have had Henne take that first drive of the 2nd half to see how things went. When Mahomes had that short carry for a first down up the middle, cleared the sticks and went straight down, it was clear how much of a hindrance that ankle was. And he misfired on 2 or 3 of his passes as soon as he came out.

I'm not positive he was better in that state than Henne would've been, but I AM positive we won the ballgame and as such, onward and upward.

farmerchief · 01-23-2023, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Chiefs do have the best quarterback from Michigan in this year's playoffs, even if he did play there in the 80s.

And, he has never lost to Burrow! :-)

MarkDavis'Haircut · 01-23-2023, 09:53 AM

If your star player can play, even limited, you go down swinging with him.

70% Mahomes (I didn't see the game, was working, so correct me if I missed the percentage,) beats a healthy Henne, physically and team emotionally, all day.

WilliamTheIrish · 01-23-2023, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele

They make it sound like Henne is the prototypical backup QB. Has the attitude he's going to play every week and prepares as such, has been with the team for years and knows every detail inside and out, knows to execute the plays and not try to do too much.

If you have an untested rookie playing in that situation you end up with turnovers. You need an experienced hand who's not going to get carried away by "this is my moment" feelings, someone who can just unemotionally run the plays like he's done a hundred times before.

And with Pat’s injury, we are probably going to run an offense that will suit Henne to a T this week in the event he needs to play.

I don’t doubt this team or staff. Those close games played to end the year build team character and attitude.

The Chiefs are primed and a dog in their own house .

displacedinMN · 01-23-2023, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

This is why I stay off social media.

I don't think there's any question we lose that game if Henne is our QB in the second half.

CP is about as social media as I get

htismaqe · 01-23-2023, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN

CP is about as social media as I get

Trust me, I learned a valuable lesson in my time away.

oldman · 01-23-2023, 10:18 AM

First of all, who the **** is Chris Spear? Second, in what league did he play QB for 25 years? His company's intramural flag football league?

Henne is an older version of what he once was, a poor man's Alex Smith. You can spout off about his once a year heroics, but let him play the entire season in today's NFL and you'll be drafting in the top 10.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-23-2023, 10:30 AM

I’m proud of henne and he has a place in chiefs history for two terrific playoff performances. But my god can we stop the narrative that he isn’t a clear backup? If there’s any downside it’s that people (including our own for some reason) have this weird idea that mahomes is a system qb and reid can win with just anyone.

Andy Reid backups were doing this all the way back to chase Daniel. Brilliant 1-2 drives then back to normal once the defense adjusts. You can only do so much with quick dink and dunk. Before henne had a gutsy finish in Cleveland he had a few bad drives and Cleveland climbed back.

Mahomes had a good second half. And we won. So there is no doubt that the approach we took was a winning approach.

Eleazar · 01-23-2023, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I’m proud of henne and he has a place in chiefs history for two terrific playoff performances. But my god can we stop the narrative that he isn’t a clear backup? If there’s any downside it’s that people (including our own for some reason) have this weird idea that mahomes is a system qb and reid can win with just anyone.

I feel like it's only Bills fans who believe that.

Bl00dyBizkitz · 01-23-2023, 10:37 AM

If it's the regular season, you'd probably consider it.

But guys, it's the playoffs. Lose and go home. Season over.

Patrick would not have gone back out there if the trainers thought his injury was severe enough that playing on it more would lead to permanent damage. In the playoffs, Mahomes with a bad ankle is still more dangerous than a fully healthy Chad Henne. Zero doubt in my mind.

Gary Cooper · 01-23-2023, 10:39 AM

No. Jacksonville would eventually catch on to the gameplan. There were throws Mahomes made on the final TD drive that Henne wouldn't make.

**Buehler445** · 01-23-2023, 10:51 AM

Dance with the girl that brought you.

50% Mahomes is better than 100% Henne.

Pepe Silvia · 01-23-2023, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

No. Jacksonville would eventually catch on to the gameplan. There were throws Mahomes made on the final TD drive that Henne wouldn't make.

Henne got away with a near pick as well.

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01-23-2023, 09:42 AM	#63
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-630901	I mean we won, so no. You don't 'take points off the board' so to speak. Survive and advance - we advanced and there's no way of knowing if we would've with Henne in there. But full disclosure: I'd have had Henne take that first drive of the 2nd half to see how things went. When Mahomes had that short carry for a first down up the middle, cleared the sticks and went straight down, it was clear how much of a hindrance that ankle was. And he misfired on 2 or 3 of his passes as soon as he came out. I'm not positive he was better in that state than Henne would've been, but I AM positive we won the ballgame and as such, onward and upward. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	First of all, who the **** is Chris Spear? Second, in what league did he play QB for 25 years? His company's intramural flag football league? Henne is an older version of what he once was, a poor man's Alex Smith. You can spout off about his once a year heroics, but let him play the entire season in today's NFL and you'll be drafting in the top 10.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1545503	I’m proud of henne and he has a place in chiefs history for two terrific playoff performances. But my god can we stop the narrative that he isn’t a clear backup? If there’s any downside it’s that people (including our own for some reason) have this weird idea that mahomes is a system qb and reid can win with just anyone. Andy Reid backups were doing this all the way back to chase Daniel. Brilliant 1-2 drives then back to normal once the defense adjusts. You can only do so much with quick dink and dunk. Before henne had a gutsy finish in Cleveland he had a few bad drives and Cleveland climbed back. Mahomes had a good second half. And we won. So there is no doubt that the approach we took was a winning approach.
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Bl00dyBizkitz Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Casino cash: $-731581	If it's the regular season, you'd probably consider it. But guys, it's the playoffs. Lose and go home. Season over. Patrick would not have gone back out there if the trainers thought his injury was severe enough that playing on it more would lead to permanent damage. In the playoffs, Mahomes with a bad ankle is still more dangerous than a fully healthy Chad Henne. Zero doubt in my mind.
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01-23-2023, 10:39 AM	#73
Gary Cooper MVP Join Date: Nov 2020 Casino cash: $-1049600	No. Jacksonville would eventually catch on to the gameplan. There were throws Mahomes made on the final TD drive that Henne wouldn't make.
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