Weiss to the Gators in 2011 (confirmed)

[Sure-Oz]

ESPN: Weis may not return to KC in 2011. Gainesville Sun's Dooley: Weis may land w/ Gators as OC. http://bit.ly/i013yB 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

from sportsbybrooks twitter...

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Highlights:Weiss could leave soon to become the Gators OC possibly as early as sunday or monday, and Mcdaniels could replace him.

Originally Posted by haydenchiefs101

mortreport Chris Mortensen
Filed to ESPN and as Gainesville Sun's Pat Dooley suggested, Charlie Weis is likely bound for Univ. of Florida as offensive coordinator

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

What does Scott Pioli do in this situation?

does he try and keep the band together? Does he mediate? Does he just say screw it and let these guys part ways without any effort?

I am curious of his role, you would think he'd want to keep all his buddies in the same room.

This is the key question and the key person who will call the final shot and why Clark paid Pioli the big bucks

No way McDaniels comes here primarily because of character issues which is what got him fired, not the record. Although I have no proof but my "hunch" tells me that Pioli and McDaniels were not fond of each other when they were in NE. Primarily because of what we saw in McDaniels lack of character and immaturity play itself out in Denver and Pioli saw all of this way before anybody else IMO.

Pioli will not put up with a Napoleon complex KID who thinks he is more important than he truly is, who will do "anything" to climb the NFL ladder and views Josh as "all about Josh" and not all about "team and winning".

BTW, this doesn't surprise me at all that there are control issues i.e the offense especially when there has been sucess to the point of an AFC West Div crown involved. All this Gator talk could be very well be a smokescreen bluff from Weis to Haley saying "hey, you hired me to develop Matt and call the plays, PLMTFA(please leave me the f**k alone) or i'll leave!!!

Political trial balloons! Don't you just love them?? The media and fans definitely do.

Bottom line: Anywhere there has been significant success it seems those involved "always" want their share of the "credit pie" and some want more than their share!!!

[kstater]

Fatso is getting all wet.

@WhitlockJason NFL media might spin Weis departure in way that downplays Haley's insecurity. NFL media won't rock the boat, still need Haley/Pioli.

[BigMeatballDave]

I still cant find any updates on this. PFT doesnt even mention this on their site.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Frankie

1- Good. You can leave this forum then.

2- McD as Donks HC and having all the power sucked. McD as Chiefs OC an on a leash will be awesome. Not the same.

McD as Pats asst coach was good enough to get the Donks HC job so that's on par with the Chiefs OC.

[KChiefs1]

BTW...Crennel would be a bigger loss than Weis...no pun intended.

[Chiefshrink]

Chemistry is everything and a good GM's job is to manage this sucessfully at every turn.

Haley will always have a hard time giving up control. You can see this in his personality and especially when there has been some sucess with himself at the helm knowing how hard it is to be consistently sucessfully in the NFL he will always be more of a "tyrant" in protecting what they have built not ever wanting to take steps backward and you can't blame a guy for that attitude but Haley will eventually have to learn to trust more as time goes on or "he" will be his own demise in due time.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by shaneo69

Paul Hackett to USC part II.

This sucks.

Originally Posted by Frankie

My thoughts as well. Reminds me of when Marty's OC (the name escapes me) announced he had accepted the USC job right before the playoffs. It really hurt the team's PO performance.

Thanks.

[KCBOSS1]

I sure hope this is wrong. I honestly thought that after the scrutiny that he faced in Notre Dame that Weis would be really happy in KC. Although, Haley may be really hard to work for. I haven't read all of the pages of dialogue, but it sounds like there has been conflict with Haley and Weis, is that right? Honestly, Weis may deserve as much or more credit for Cassel's improvement than Cassel does. His play pre and post Weis are dramatically different.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Chemistry is everything and a good GM's job is to manage this sucessfully at every turn.

Haley will always have a hard time giving up control. You can see this in his personality and especially when there has been some sucess with himself at the helm knowing how hard it is to be consistently sucessfully in the NFL he will always be more of a "tyrant" in protecting what they have built not ever wanting to take steps backward and you can't blame a guy for that attitude but Haley will eventually have to learn to trust more as time goes on or "he" will be his own demise in due time.

If the guy you are managing doesn't get his role or tries to do things you don't agree with then you replace him. Haley is the head coach. Not Weis.

All this "Haley doesn't know how to play nice" is -- if the reports are true and I believe they are at this point -- coming from a couple of men who don't agree with Haley's approach (which, I might point out, emphasized Charles a lot more as a primary runner in the second half of last season which was something most on this board seemed to want). That's fine. But Weis is the one who is unable to deal with Haley's input. Not the other way around.

Because Haley is the head coach. Not Weis.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

Multiple outlets and sources are saying that Weis is leaving after the season. Haley has neither confirmed or denied. Most are implying it's likely due to a personality conflict or a case of one not having as much oversight as they want on the offense. Many of the rumors say he is taking the Florida OC job, however that is not confirmed and there is a possibility of him going elsewhere. Mortensen has said McDaniels is a possible replacement but others like Glazer are saying that's not likely as long as Haley is in charge...

Thanks

[GloryDayz]

I guess we know who the alpha-gimp is... :-)

[DaFace]

It's incredible how much people listen to complete speculation about why Weiss might leave.

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[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's incredible how much people listen to complete speculation about why Weiss might leave.

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Hell, it's what we do as a nation. Speculate. PLEASE DON'T MOVE THIS TO DC!!!

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[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

What I don't get is the time this rumor came out. Weis should be obligated to stay with the Chiefs through the playoffs. And Pioli should have told Florida they could talk to Weis after the Chiefs are done in the playoffs.

Florida plans to have their staff hired and announced by January 4th, in time to recruit down the stretch once the dead (silent) period is over.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The problem you guys have had on O this year has more to do with a QB who is ill equipped to play the position in that offense and youth at some of your skill positions. Andre Debose is probably going to be a really good Percy Harvinesque player.

I can understand the desire to move to a more traditional attack, but I've always felt the best offense you can run in college is a 3-4 wide package with a QB under center and a RB. You're still a threat to run, you won't scare away top level recruits at QB, and you can expose the weakest part of any college team--depth in the secondary.

I still think they'll run an attacking, aggressive, spread out attack. But it will contain pro-style formations and will be more of a spread attack instead of a spread-option

Debose is a great talent who never seems to get any offensive touches. His freshman season he was touted as the next Percy Harvin. He got hurt, missed the entire year, and hasn't done much other than return kickoffs this year. The most frustrating thing about Florida this year is the mis-utilization of talent.