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**BigRedChief** · 07-07-2008, 07:05 AM

Figured that if we had one thread to discuss Cardinals "stuff" it would be easier to find. What do you think? Good idea?

**BigRedChief** · 08-07-2008, 08:05 AM

If Perez can get his slider going like last night and then we can move Wainright into a starting spot we may just have something this year....

Adam Wainwright will begin his rehab assignment a day earlier than originally planned to prepare for the possibility he'll return to the majors as the Cardinals' closer.

Wainwright will start Friday night for the Cardinals' Class AAA affiliate in lMemphis, and his rehab will be tailored for a relief pitcher — lower pitch counts, shorter and more frequent appearances. The decision to have Wainwright get ready to be a reliever dovetails with the promotion of rookie Chris Perez and a meeting Cardinals brass held Wednesday to address their ninth-inning emergency

Wainwright had been set to start Saturday's game for Memphis before his schedule changed.

"We moved him up since he's probably going to come back as a reliever," general manager John Mozeliak said. "It's not set. There's a chance before he comes back that we have a solution and it's not a need. Then he'll come back as a starter. We want to be prepared. Right now, everything is on the table."

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

If Perez can get his slider going like last night and then we can move Wainright into a starting spot we may just have something this year....

Adam Wainwright will begin his rehab assignment a day earlier than originally planned to prepare for the possibility he'll return to the majors as the Cardinals' closer.

Wainwright will start Friday night for the Cardinals' Class AAA affiliate in lMemphis, and his rehab will be tailored for a relief pitcher — lower pitch counts, shorter and more frequent appearances. The decision to have Wainwright get ready to be a reliever dovetails with the promotion of rookie Chris Perez and a meeting Cardinals brass held Wednesday to address their ninth-inning emergency

Wainwright had been set to start Saturday's game for Memphis before his schedule changed.

"We moved him up since he's probably going to come back as a reliever," general manager John Mozeliak said. "It's not set. There's a chance before he comes back that we have a solution and it's not a need. Then he'll come back as a starter. We want to be prepared. Right now, everything is on the table."

Works for me.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-07-2008, 08:36 AM

As long as he comes back healthy, any role he is put into will be a big boost to the club.

StcChief · 08-07-2008, 08:38 AM

a good deal. either way start bullpen. move to starter in Sept.

**BigRedChief** · 08-07-2008, 08:59 AM

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Player	Salary (US$)
1. Albert Pujols	13,870,949
2. Troy Glaus	12,500,000
3. Chris Carpenter	10,500,000
4. Jason Isringhausen	8,000,000
5. Mark Mulder	7,000,000
6. Juan Encarnacion	6,500,000
7 a. Braden Looper	5,500,000
7 b. Joel Pineiro	5,500,000
9. Felipe Lopez	4,900,000
10. Kyle Lohse	4,250,000
11 a. Russ Springer	3,500,000
11 b. Adam Kennedy	3,500,000
13. Cesar Izturis	2,850,000
14. Ryan Franklin	2,250,000
15. Yadier Molina	1,812,500
16. Aaron Miles	1,400,000
17. Todd Wellemeyer	1,000,000
18. Rick Ankiel	900,000
19. Jason LaRue	850,000
20. Adam Wainwright	687,500
21. Ron Villone	600,000
22. Chris Duncan	439,000
23. Brad Thompson	414,000
24. Ryan Ludwick	411,000
25. Tyler Johnson	398,000
26. Skip Schumaker	396,000
27 a. Josh Kinney	390,000
27 b. Brian Barton	390,000
27 c. Kyle McClellan	390,000
TOTAL Team Salary:	99,624,449

Some mighty fine bargains in there and also we will have $21 million freed up for next year with Izzy, Mulder and Juan gone.

StcChief · 08-07-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Some mighty fine bargains in there and also we will have $21 million freed up for next year with Izzy, Mulder and Juan gone.

with salary loss of Izzy,Encarsion, Mulder

we will have shed some serious salary obligations for 2009

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 09:19 AM

I wonder if Encarnacion will ever play again?

StcChief · 08-07-2008, 09:30 AM

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I wonder if Encarnacion will ever play again?

Royals will sign him. Like Gradz

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-07-2008, 12:30 PM

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The view from our seats

Very cool. How much did it cost ya to sit there?

Nothing. One of my friends got comped at work.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-07-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I wonder if Encarnacion will ever play again?

Nope. Paletta said his eye socket was like a crushed eggshell and it was the worst eye injury he's ever seen.

Frazod · 08-07-2008, 12:34 PM

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Nope. Paletta said his eye socket was like a crushed eggshell and it was the worst eye injury he's ever seen.

That's too bad. What a horrible injury.

Jewish Rabbi · 08-07-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Some mighty fine bargains in there and also we will have $21 million freed up for next year with Izzy, Mulder and Juan gone.

A bit deceiving too... we're not paying Lopez that $6.5, we're paying him league minimum. Ankiel is also up for arbitration too, so his salary will go up. That's just a few examples.

**BigRedChief** · 08-07-2008, 01:23 PM

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Looking like Wainwright to the pen is now likely. Can't say I agree with this at all but it may at least make watching the games a little less frustrating.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/spo...0?OpenDocument

98 MPH fastball and a nasty slider will get you compared to Sutter regardless if Tony wants the comparisons or not.
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The Cardinals considered sending Perez, 23, to lower levels than Class AAA just to work on his slider but opted to keep him one rung below the majors. He was told to throw one slider for every fastball, and he did until "the feel came back," Perez said. He struck out 15 in seven innings in his recent stint at Memphis

He called the assignment "a chance to clear my head. I had confidence because of what I did (earlier this season in the majors). ... I figured out the slider and was able to keep my feel for it."

StcChief · 08-07-2008, 01:41 PM

yeah. He baffled the Dodgers.... wanna see it against a real good team.

**BigRedChief** · 08-07-2008, 02:23 PM

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yeah. He baffled the Dodgers.... wanna see it against a real good team.

The Dodgers ain't the Royals but they are okay. He will get his chance this weekend at Wrigley.

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BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-661038 VARSITY	If Perez can get his slider going like last night and then we can move Wainright into a starting spot we may just have something this year.... Adam Wainwright will begin his rehab assignment a day earlier than originally planned to prepare for the possibility he'll return to the majors as the Cardinals' closer. Wainwright will start Friday night for the Cardinals' Class AAA affiliate in lMemphis, and his rehab will be tailored for a relief pitcher — lower pitch counts, shorter and more frequent appearances. The decision to have Wainwright get ready to be a reliever dovetails with the promotion of rookie Chris Perez and a meeting Cardinals brass held Wednesday to address their ninth-inning emergency Wainwright had been set to start Saturday's game for Memphis before his schedule changed. "We moved him up since he's probably going to come back as a reliever," general manager John Mozeliak said. "It's not set. There's a chance before he comes back that we have a solution and it's not a need. Then he'll come back as a starter. We want to be prepared. Right now, everything is on the table." __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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