Pioli offers an excuse

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Pioli will bring Chiefs back to life

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ORLANDO — If you know Scott Pioli, you know he’s going to do in Kansas City what he did in New England — win Super Bowls.

Most likely not in his second year on the job, as the Patriots did in 2001.

But he’ll get the job done. He always has.

Pioli knows football. He knows people. He knows how to evaluate not only how a player will perform on the field, but also his character — what he’ll be like in the locker room, where the all-important chemistry that is an integral part of championship teams is established and maintained.

He knows his business, as he showed throughout his nine years in New England, when, working hand-in-hand with coach Bill Belichick, Pioli assembled the talent that enabled the Patriots to play in four Super Bowls – winning three of them — and five AFC championship games.

The Pats won six division titles while Pioli was personnel chief, going 18-0 in 2007 before losing Super Bowl XLII in the final seconds to the Giants.

He knows how winning teams — championship teams — are built, and he’s determined to do it in Kansas City, where he’s now a couple of months into his second year as general manager.

“The big difference is that, in Kansas City, I was starting at ground zero,” he said Sunday afternoon, stopping to chat for a few minutes in the lobby of the Ritz-Carlton, where the NFL owners meetings are taking place this week.

The Chiefs were 2-14 in 2008, the year before he arrived. They doubled that win total last season.

“Where I’d come from,” he said, referring to his years with the Patriots, “we had a system and a program that was up and running, with people with a great deal of experience.”

It’s a somewhat different experience for Pioli in Kansas City, where he’s clearly at the top of the totem pole. In New England, Belichick had the last word. With the Chiefs, while Pioli discusses personnel moves with coach Todd Haley, he has the final say.

“It’s similar to my situation in New England,” Pioli said, “but the lead role has swapped.”

To help him in that lead role, he said: “I’ve brought in a number of people who are smarter than I am, starting with the head coach. I don’t ever kid myself that I know that part of the game well enough.”

The head coach is the 43-year-old Haley. It’s his first head-coaching job, but he has extensive experience working with teams that have had to rebuild — most recently the Arizona Cardinals, for whom he was offensive coordinator in 2008, when they won the NFC championship and played in the franchise’s first NFL title game since 1947.

“We have a shared vision of what it takes to build a successful franchise,” Pioli said.

To do that requires more than simply bringing in talented athletes.

“I’ve learned that chemistry is critical,” Pioli said. “In New England, we didn’t just have great players — we had great team players.”

The Patriots had players like Mike Vrabel, who was brought to Kansas City by Pioli last season as much for his leadership as his linebacking talents. Along with the likes of Willie McGinest and Tedy Bruschi, Vrabel made sure that every player who put on a New England uniform knew what was expected of him.

“We also had selfless leaders, like Roman Phifer, Bobby Hamilton, and Anthony Pleasant,” said Pioli, who recently added Pleasant to the K.C. staff as defensive line coach.

A veteran of 14 NFL seasons — the last three in New England — Pleasant is one of several Chiefs assistants with a Patriots connection.

When Charlie Weis was fired at Notre Dame, Pioli snapped him up as offensive coordinator. The Chiefs new defensive coordinator is Romeo Crennel, who was fired as head coach of the Browns after the 2008 season. Crennel and Weis were, of course, the coordinators for Belichick in New England when the Patriots won their three Super Bowls.

Pioli also has hired former Patriots defensive back Otis Smith and put him in charge of “defensive quality control.”

Throw in quarterback Matt Cassel, who filled in so capably for the Patriots after Brady was lost for the 2008 season when he was injured in the opener — against the Chiefs — and there clearly is a strong New England flavor to what Pioli sees as the recipe for success in Kansas City.

Which shouldn’t be surprising.

He doesn’t have to convince people with Patriots ties to, so to speak, buy the Kool-Aid he’s selling. They’ve already been drinking it for years.

“It happens all the time,” Pioli said of the practice of hiring people you know — and who know you.

“Look at what Josh (McDaniel) is doing in Denver. Look what happened when Brian Billick went to the Ravens, or when Andy Reid went to Philadelphia. (Bill) Parcells has done it everywhere he’s gone.

“It’s natural, when you’re looking for leaders.”

It’s been 40 years since the Chiefs have been to the Super Bowl. They’re looking to Pioli to lead them back.

It won’t be this year. But it may not be too many more.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by milkman

The problem here is that this team needed production, not potential.

If your team is one that is already competing, then you can afford to use 4th round picks on projects.

But this team sucks ass.

A 4th rounder should be a contributor.

Absolutely, which is why guys like Washington and Colin Brown were head scratchers.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It's a stretch to say any group of fans could run a draft better than NFL front officers. But with what the Chiefs did last year....certainly a bunch of internet assclowns could improve upon it.

Take that as a compliment.

Amazing how you can write off an entire draft class after 1 year.

1 and done.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

Absolutely, which is why guys like Washington and Colin Brown were head scratchers.

the only pick that wasn't was Mr Succop

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Amazing how you can write off an entire draft class after 1 year.

1 and done.

its not writing them off one bit. I'm pretty sure most of us feel that Tyson will develop into a good player, as will Magee...the problem is who we passed on to select them.

Its a lack of value comprehension, draft-wise.

[Mecca]

What do you see from the class? Jackson can never justify his pick...then after that we have a bunch of blah mid rounders.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Amazing how you can write off an entire draft class after 1 year.

1 and done.

I'm not writing them off.

Doesn't look good, though.

[Mecca]

Even if all those guys become their absolute peaks, it's still at best an ok draft class.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Even if all those guys become their absolute peaks, it's still at best an ok draft class.

5-tech
5-tech
nickel corner
right guard
kick returner
running back
tight end
kicker

[BossChief]

***after GoChiefs post the suicide rate in Kansas City doubled in a matter of weeks***

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

5-tech
5-tech
nickel corner
right guard
kick returner
running back
tight end
kicker

If 3 of those 7 are solid contributors, it was a decent draft not an abortion.

It is easy to look afterward and say we should have done this or that. The draft is littered with failures.

That being said you can't do that every year and be successful. You have to hit on 1 or 2 good drafts to turn a team around.Then you have to be respectable. The Chiefs were turned around with just a few drafts, the rest were suspect.

The Colts, Patriots and Steelers haven't nailed every draft.

[Mecca]

When you have the 3rd pick you should be pulling better than "decent draft"