Chiefs Who Does thigpen remind you of - Page 6

Hoover · 11-14-2008, 09:10 PM

I've been thinking Mark Burnell, but then I looked for photos of Brunell throwing the ball. No dice, but then I found someone else.

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StcChief · 11-15-2008, 05:17 PM

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Thigpen is a white Steamin' Willy Beamen

yeah. what I was thinking....

orange · 11-15-2008, 05:19 PM

I'm thinking he reminds me of Brian Shay and Bobby Sippio.

FringeNC · 11-15-2008, 05:54 PM

http://www.fantasysharks.com/artman2...ool_s_Gold.htm

"Here was Thigpen’s profile heading into the 2007 National Football League Draft, keeping in mind that many had thought he would not be selected. ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper had said Thigpen, in his opinion, was, “…kind of like [Tony] Romo” in terms of raw talent.

Tyler Thigpen, Costal Carolina University

Height: 6-foot-1

Weight: 224 lbs

Positives: Arm strength, scrambling ability, athleticism, leadership

Negatives: Accuracy issues, played against weak competition, considered a project "

milkman · 11-15-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

I'm thinking he reminds me of Brian Shay and Bobby Sippio.

Except for a small matter of actually performing and producing in games.

orange · 11-15-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Except for a small matter of actually performing and producing in games.

Matt Cassel out-Thigpenned Thigpen Thursday night. In New England, he's known as "fill-in" or "stop-gap."

In KC Thigpen is being touted as "saviour" or "cornerstone."

Chiefs fans LOVE their feel-good stories!

p.s. Sorry, Boomer. Didn't mean to leave you out.

milkman · 11-15-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Matt Cassel out-Thigpenned Thigpen Thursday night. In New England, he's known as "fill-in" or "stop-gap."

In KC Thigpen is being touted as "saviour" or "cornerstone."

Chiefs fans LOVE their feel-good stories!

I am not pimping Bones as the QBoTF.

I'm just pointing out that he has actually performed in a real game, which neither Sippio or Shay can lay claim to.

However, as for Cassell's performance, although he put up over 400 yards in that game, I would call that the least impressive 400 yard performance by a QB in history.

Thigpen has been more impressive, by far.

StcChief · 11-15-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I am not pimping Bones as the QBoTF.

I'm just pointing out that he has actually performed in a real game, which neither Sippio or Shay can lay claim to.

However, as for Cassell's performance, although he put up over 400 yards in that game, I would call that the least impressive 400 yard performance by a QB in history.

Thigpen has been more impressive, by far.

absolutely considering the talent around Cassell vs. Thiggy at this point.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-15-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Matt Cassel out-Thigpenned Thigpen Thursday night. In New England, he's known as "fill-in" or "stop-gap."

In KC Thigpen is being touted as "saviour" or "cornerstone."

Chiefs fans LOVE their feel-good stories!

p.s. Sorry, Boomer. Didn't mean to leave you out.

Oh....My....God; no you didn't. Yes you did.

Matt's been playing for Brady HOW MANY GAMES NOW?

Matt is surrounded by an Offensive Line that won THREE WHAT?

Matt has a Defense! (That always helps)

Anybody else feel free to jump in; I gotta' move on to other stuff.

orange · 11-15-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I am not pimping Bones as the QBoTF.

Then my comment wasn't directed primarily to you - more to the Darth-side.

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Originally Posted by milkman

However, as for Cassell's performance, although he put up over 400 yards in that game, I would call that the least impressive 400 yard performance by a QB in history.

Thigpen has been more impressive, by far.

Please. 400 yards passing, 62 rushing, 3 touchdowns, a last-minute drive for the game-tying touchdown. Chiefs' fans would have to be chiseled out of their jeans.

milkman · 11-15-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Then my comment was directed primarily to you - more to the Darth-side.

Please. 400 yards passing, 62 rushing, 3 touchdowns, a last-minute drive for the game-tying touchdown. Chiefs' fans would have to be chiseled out of their jeans.

There were a number of passes that Cassell attempted to throw that he just didn't have the arm strength for.

To me, that game just illustrated how much the defense in the NFL has been neutered by the rules.

If you can't consistently get QB pressure, then even mediocre QBs with weak arms can put up yardage.

I wouldn't want to have to rely on Cassell to win games.

orange · 11-15-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There were a number of passes that Cassell attempted to throw that he just didn't have the arm strength for.

To me, that game just illustrated how much the defense in the NFL has been neutered by the rules.

If you can't consistently get QB pressure, then even mediocre QBs with weak arms can put up yardage.

I wouldn't want to have to rely on Cassell to win games.

All true. But on Thigpen's potential game-winning drive, he was absolutely bailed out on three plays by a hall-of-famer at his best.

Gonzales went back to pick up an errant throw off his shoetops and still managed to back up for more yardage to keep the drive alive early.

He boxed out perfectly to draw PI on the goal line (note to NFL coaches - ALL receivers should get off-season coaching in basketball).

And he stole a risky pass into high traffic away from the defenders for the touchdown. That final drive was ALL Gonzales.

He even set up the potentially winning play on the conversion - breaking away from a mugging and making himself available deep in the endzone if Thigpen could have got the ball there. But Thigpen COULDN'T get the ball there - he didn't have the arm strength to muscle it there falling backwards as he tried, and he didn't have the savvy to set and step into the throw and take the hit, nor the elusiveness to juke the pass rusher and buy an extra half-second. He just didn't have any of the "specialness" that sets the great ones apart.

Don't tell me Thigpen is not the beneficiary of his teammates' excellence like Cassel is.

milkman · 11-15-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

All true. But on Thigpen's potential game-winning drive, he was absolutely bailed out on three plays by a hall-of-famer at his best.

Gonzales went back to pick up an errant throw off his shoetops and still managed to back up for more yardage to keep the drive alive early.

He boxed out perfectly to draw PI on the goal line (note to NFL coaches - ALL receivers should get off-season coaching in basketball).

And he stole a risky pass into high traffic away from the defenders for the touchdown. That final drive was ALL Gonzales.

He even set up the potentially winning play on the conversion - breaking away from a mugging and making himself available deep in the endzone if Thigpen could have got the ball there. But Thigpen COULDN'T get the ball there - he didn't have the arm strength to muscle it there falling backwards as he tried, and he didn't have the savvy to set and step into the throw and take the hit, nor the elusiveness to juke the pass rusher and buy an extra half-second. He just didn't have any of the "specialness" that sets the great ones apart.

Again, I am not sold on Thigpen, but he has far better arm strength than Cassell.

I certainly am not going to begin to compare him to any great ones, but a couple of things you mention, stepping into that throw, and a couple of poor decisions in which Tony bailed him out are things that can be learned through experience, or in the case of throwing it up for Tony to bail, that's just what you do with Tony.

dorseybowe · 11-15-2008, 08:29 PM

Steve Young-ishy, Gannon.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-15-2008, 08:30 PM

The QB he most reminds me of is Big Ben in his early years. Big Ben's elusive and really good at throwing on the run, and he's pretty tough for a QB too.

I wouldn't compare him to Big Ben now, who I think is now one of the best QBs in the league. And I'm well aware that he could quickly turn into Derek Anderson or Trent Edwards in the snap of a finger.

dorseybowe · 11-15-2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The QB he most reminds me of is Big Ben in his early years. Big Ben's elusive and really good at throwing on the run, and he's pretty tough for a QB too.

I wouldn't compare him to Big Ben now, who I think is now one of the best QBs in the league. And I'm well aware that he could quickly turn into Derek Anderson or Trent Edwards in the snap of a finger.

Too much size difference. Thigpen has a more Drew Brees/Steve Young body.

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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1633986	http://www.fantasysharks.com/artman2...ool_s_Gold.htm "Here was Thigpen’s profile heading into the 2007 National Football League Draft, keeping in mind that many had thought he would not be selected. ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper had said Thigpen, in his opinion, was, “…kind of like [Tony] Romo” in terms of raw talent. Tyler Thigpen, Costal Carolina University Height: 6-foot-1 Weight: 224 lbs Positives: Arm strength, scrambling ability, athleticism, leadership Negatives: Accuracy issues, played against weak competition, considered a project "
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