Cassel Vs Sanchez

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think it's riskier in this market, fans here were conditioned that vets are better than rookies especially at the QB position. The 1 time we tried to go young it resulted in abysmal failure.

I think general KC fan feels more comfortable with Matt Cassel than they would have drafting a QB just because of personal experience.

Right. That was what I was trying to say about the perception part.

In reality, it was riskier, but in this market, most fans think we made the "smart" (read: safer) decision.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Right. That was what I was trying to say about the perception part.

In reality, it was riskier, but in this market, most fans think we made the "smart" (read: safer) decision.

Pretty much, this market is very weird at times.

9-7 is ok, people are passionate etc but taking a risk that may mean the team isn't great for a few years causes people to flip out.

This market doesn't have the stomach to really let a young QB sink or swim.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think it's riskier in this market, fans here were conditioned that vets are better than rookies especially at the QB position. The 1 time we tried to go young it resulted in abysmal failure.

I think general KC fan feels more comfortable with Matt Cassel than they would have drafting a QB just because of personal experience.

I think the general fan feels more comfortable with Cassel because Pioli knows Cassel better than any draft pick.

I also think that the general fan would have been more comfortable with Stafford than Sanchez.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I think the general fan feels more comfortable with Cassel because Pioli knows Cassel better than any draft pick.

I also think that the general fan would have been more comfortable with Stafford than Sanchez.

I don't give a shit what the general fan thinks because the general fan is clueless.

[NFL16]

Just nitpicking here... but we will never know for sure whether or not the Jets would have traded up even further to get ahead of us for Sanchez had we not acquired Cassel.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by NFL16

Just nitpicking here... but we will never know for sure whether or not the Jets would have traded up even further to get ahead of us for Sanchez had we not acquired Cassel.

They got a sweetheart deal from the Browns, I don't think they could have gotten ahead of the Chiefs though, not from how low they were they would have had to give up next years 1st and basically the entire this years draft.

[Buehler445]

I watched the replay on NFLN. Maybe it was live. **** I don't know. Sanchez looked better than I anticipated.

I guess before I go further, I should throw my disclaimer. I was in the Sanchez camp, but recognized his red flags. We got Cassel, whom also has red flags. We got a pretty smokin ass deal for him. Cassel is my man, I hope he rips it up.

My interest in Sanchez, now is merely as a fan of football. Hell, I don't even buy into the "link" between teams or whatever. Sanchez could own in NY, but if he would have come here and got planted every week by whomever Sackintosh decided not to block and may well have busted wildly. I don't much care about Sanchez anymore outside of just an interest in football.

That being said, why the **** did the first two guys only throw 4 passes? IIRC Clements was 4/4 20-something yards, Sanchez was 3/4 80-something yards. That doesn't tell you a lot. Them being on the field and running plays inherently gives you ideas, but come on, 4 passes each? Are they really that interested in Ainge?

That 50 yard pass was good all around. It was a good playcall from Shottenhiemer. It's easy to brush off if it is incomplete or whatever, there probably wasn't going to be an INT from misreading the D, because nobody in the building thought he was going deep. And I'm sure that sent his confidence through the roof. Damn good work there.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by milkman

Thanks mecca.

I got in from work after Sanchez had already finished his time in the game and hadn't seen that.

You can see him go quickly through his progressions, make a quick decision, and throw a perfectly placed pass.

Impressive.

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's a really nice play especially for a rookie QB, he looks off the safety even does a pump to hold him before throwing it down the field.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And he's damn near in his own endzone, where a lot of QBs start to wet themselves...

It was a 93 yard drive that started off with that pass. I like the way Ryan let him go out there and turn one loose from the get-go like that. That's having some confidence in your guy, and it was a good confidence builder for Sanchez as well.

Look, we're in full football mode now and I want my team to do well and to win. There's no use in crying, bitching, or pissing over something that has come and gone, and that we have no control over.
That article from about a week ago made it pretty clear that Haley wasn't comfortable with the idea of going in to his first time as a head coach with a "true rookie" at the helm, so Matt Cassel was gonna' be the guy and that's all there is/was to it. I can live with it because we're going to play a different kind of football than Rex Ryan. We're going to, with time, build a consistent, balanced roster that can compete and win because the whole will be greater than the sum of its parts.

That's where we're headed, and I'm cool with it.

And don't forget; the Jets we're playing against STL for ****'s sake.

[TheGuardian]

So I tuned in to watch what the fuss was about and I expected to see Sanchez destroying the 2000 Ravens defense.

It was 1 drive and he threw 1 good fade route. WOO HOO OMG WE ARE THE SUXOR FOR NOT DRAFTING SANCHEZ!

If the guy comes out next week and throws 3 interceptions will the same people that have Sanchez chin nuts put much stock into that too?

It's preseason. I guarantee you that if Sanchez starts for the entire season the Jets won't even break .500. Bookmark my post.

[tonyetony]

Originally Posted by Texas Fury

I can understand the logic where some people would want Sanchez if someone is going to struggle regardless. He seems to have the composure to handle rough spots and is younger. I think if I were a Chiefs fan, I would have wanted Sanchez and then a pass rusher pretty much equal to Tyson with that second rounder. That way you get two younger guys to groom instead of an older QB and a year of two of Vrabel being so-so. It seems the rebuild would go slower with the two rooks, but have more potential. Let's be honest though KC is several years away. Hopefully Houston is finally getting there, but look at all the so-so seasons we have dealt with. I still think Belichick must laugh when these guys go out and act like they own the world when he is the one responsible for the Pats success. I ain't tryin' to stir things up, but like many here are saying, where Pioli and Haey sit in a couple years will indeed be very interesting.

No one cares about you or Houston here dumbass. Go away

[milkman]

Originally Posted by tonyetony

No one cares about you or Houston here dumbass. Go away

Actually, since we are playing Houston in the game tonight, we do care about Houston right now, cause they will help give us a glimpse at the Chiefs progress.

And TF has given us some good posts in his sgort visit here and hopefully he sticks around even afte this game.

So speak for yourself, dumbass.

[KCBOSS1]

Originally Posted by Texas Fury

I can understand the logic where some people would want Sanchez if someone is going to struggle regardless. He seems to have the composure to handle rough spots and is younger. I think if I were a Chiefs fan, I would have wanted Sanchez and then a pass rusher pretty much equal to Tyson with that second rounder. That way you get two younger guys to groom instead of an older QB and a year of two of Vrabel being so-so. It seems the rebuild would go slower with the two rooks, but have more potential. Let's be honest though KC is several years away. Hopefully Houston is finally getting there, but look at all the so-so seasons we have dealt with. I still think Belichick must laugh when these guys go out and act like they own the world when he is the one responsible for the Pats success. I ain't tryin' to stir things up, but like many here are saying, where Pioli and Haey sit in a couple years will indeed be very interesting.

It think this is a good point. Bilichick is the brain-child. Hopefully Pioli has a strong contribution to the brain aspect. Hopefully, he is the Walsh of this era and everybody that has been affiliated with him ends up with rings. I was a Sanchez guy. I like what I hear so far about Cassel.

[TheGuardian]

Houston aint there either.