Chiefs Reflections on a Rat****ing - Page 6

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-17-2010, 02:24 PM

But not by the refs

First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend.

Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel.

I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed
tackles.

I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself
out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop.

Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD.

If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game
changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds.

The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the
previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history.

It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be.

Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson?

DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game.

Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time.

The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown.

That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.

10-17-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

Dude, I dislike Cassel as much as anybody but he played a great game. Sure he stunk it up on the final drive but you can't really expect any quarterback to drive down the field and score with the amount of time we had to work with. I realize we were playing a bad pass d but come on.

You can't? Why not?

milkman · 10-17-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Man, I sure don't. I don't mind aggressive playcalling, but when you run as effortlessly as the Chiefs were today, there's no reason not to go back to that well on 3rd & 2.

On third and short, there weren't any effortless runs today.

They continually stuffed us on third and short runs.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-17-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I don't blame Cassel at all, unless that ****ing 3rd and 2 play was his idea.

Weis and Co. gave up 21 points in the 4th? I love our young D, but they got their ass handed to them today.

Red Dawg · 10-17-2010, 03:42 PM

Defense lost this game pure and simple. Our offense is the only reason it was winable but they were one play short. I love how our d has played this year but today was bad. Can't be great every game.

Hug it Out Dan · 10-17-2010, 03:45 PM

This is the kind of team Herm Edwards would love. A QB who can manage the game, and if the defense can play well and we can move the chains mainly by running the ball, you have a chance on the road.

In the first half we were that kinda team.

2nd half was a much different story. Our defense broke the **** down, let up a few key huge plays, and when/if we get into a shootout, we don't have a good QB to help us win in those situations. That PI call took all the wind out of the defense's sails, whatever remaining amount that was left. Gotta blame the defense for this loss. You're supposed to win when you score more than 30pts one would think.

Our Dline just got abused in the 2nd half. Just completely abused. Ron Edwards got blown off the ball time after time again, we need a true NT. That's just the bottom god damn line. We need a large big fat mother****er to plug up the middle. Shit I would make a trade w/ Baltimore for one, they have a surplus of 34 interior lineman.

Safety play in this game was horrible. Where's Eric Berry? Jon Mcgraw is playig better than him by a considerable margin IMO....Jon ****ing McGraw. Berry has talent, needs to get his shit together. I know he's a rookie, but damn he's been horrible more times than not.

Rigodan · 10-17-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_in_Commander

I haven't read through this thread or the Official game thread so if this was said then sorry, but this is entirely Cassel's fault.....On that 3rd and 2 play Cassel had a guy crossing over the middle of the field with his arm up in the air calling for the ball and Cassel had made a pre-snap decision to throw to Moeaki.....Cassel is garbage most of the time, he played better today but not good enough....simple as that

This. When they showed the replay from the endzone you can see someone wide open running across the middle of the field. With an accurate pass he probably could have had a td.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-17-2010, 04:03 PM

**** it.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:05 PM

I am surprised some of the people on here (those blaming Cassel) are even smart enough to set up their home networks to get online.

milkman · 10-17-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

I am surprised some of the people on here (those blaming Cassel) are even smart enough to set up their home networks to get online.

Wait....what?

You mean some people set up their own network?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-17-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

I am surprised some of the people on here (those blaming Cassel) are even smart enough to set up their home networks to get online.

Yeah, Cassel didn't shit the bed on the final possession.

It was his wide open receivers that blew a chance at a win.

keg in kc · 10-17-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Wait....what?

You mean some people set up their own network?

Is the world wide web something from those Spider-Man comics that all the kids read?

Hammock Parties · 10-17-2010, 04:08 PM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ans-highlights

1:45

Cassel definitely overthrows Moeaki.

And look at Bowe. He's open. More open than Moeaki. There's no safety, everyone was down in the box.

Doubly whammy on Casshole.

KC kid · 10-17-2010, 04:08 PM

How many points did the Texans score in the 4th quarter????????????

</post> · 10-17-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

How many points did the Texans score in the 4th quarter????????????

21

milkman · 10-17-2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Is the world wide web something from those Spider-Man comics that all the kids read?

I never thought of that.

Stan Lee is an evil genious.

10-17-2010, 02:24 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7259572	Reflections on a Rating But not by the refs First, I’m going to bet that about 2000 people blamed Carr on that final catch. If you watch, you’ll notice that he was covering Daniels in the short zone. If he would have inexplicably floated to the back pylon before the throw, Schaub has a wide open Daniels walking into the EZ and the result is the same. Don’t blame Carr. With that said, Romeo should have locked Flowers on Johnson for the entirety of that drive and not had us play zone in that situation. Berry was in the area too, but that was a schoolyard play, and those are the hardest to defend. Cassel really ****ed us on the last drive. He was near the money all game, and when he had Bowe and Horne wide open, he badly misfired on both, which made us need a Hail Mary for any shot. Oh, and that 3^rd and 2 call was there, but Cassel made an awful throw to Moeaki. He really screwed the pooch when we needed him the most, and that’s the difference between a franchise QB and Matt Cassel. I think we had more missed tackles today than every other game this season combined. Playing good offenses will tend to make that happen, but there were some really bad plays on D today. On Ward’s run, I counted six missed tackles. I know Donald Washington is a n00b FS, but he looked lost in coverage several times, and missed a couple of key tackles, one on the Ward run, and another on Jones™ catch late in the third, where he totally took himself out of coverage, recovered after the catch, and then blew the stop. Cassel’s first TD to Bowe was a great throw and catch. The other two TDs were phenomenal plays by the receivers. Vrabel’s was obviously way behind him, and Bowe went SD 2007 on the Texans on his second TD. If you are going to take something from Bowe’s performance today, it should be how he responded to adversity. I hope that the people who wanted him run out of town today feel a little foolish, because he is still a game changing receiving weapon, and he made a number of very difficult catches. He made 3 really good grabs today, and another circus catch that would have been a top 10 highlight had Cassel not lead him out of bounds. The running game was nails today. Charles started slow and then really picked it up. More than anything, he was much harder to take down today than he was last week, and Jones looked a hell of a lot quicker than he had the previous two games. And Charles had the greatest 7 yard run in football history. It’s becoming more and more apparent that the coaches do not trust Cassel whatsoever. Delay of game coming off of a timeout should be a capital offense for a QB. JFC.We were afraid to pass on the first drive, and unless we are in 3rd and 8+ or in a 2 minute drill, we aren’t attempting to throw downfield at all. However, the throw he made to Moeaki on 3rd and 7 was exactly where it needed to be. Brandon Flowers may be the most complete corner in the NFL today. The PI call on him was obviously horrendous, but if it’s a no-call, Johnson makes the catch anyway. The elbow in the back was a foul, but it’s not normally one that is called. That said, if you’re throwing a flag there, how do you not throw it on Johnson? DJ missed a couple of tackles today, but he was still all over the place. He played with a shitload of heart, and his athleticism—landing on your feet when getting flipped by an OL—was amazing. Belcher had a less impressive game. Gilberry was absolutely abused today. He generated no pressure in the passing game, and on running downs he got blown up or taken out by a single blocker nearly every time. The biggest thing that we need to take away from this game is that we have one outside receiving threat and nothing else, one pass rusher and nothing else, and no QB. Danario Alexander, a guy who many of us pined for and the Rams got off the street in August stepped in today and had 4 catches for 72 yards and a touchdown. That’s a really tough loss, but I’m proud of the fire that Flowers showed. The guy isn’t a paycheck player. Also, Haley did a masterful job of managing the emotions of the team and the game. Ultimately, our inability to generate pressure on Schaub is why we lost. Vrabel and Studebaker aren’t nearly good enough.
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Hug it Out Dan Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	This is the kind of team Herm Edwards would love. A QB who can manage the game, and if the defense can play well and we can move the chains mainly by running the ball, you have a chance on the road. In the first half we were that kinda team. 2nd half was a much different story. Our defense broke the ** down, let up a few key huge plays, and when/if we get into a shootout, we don't have a good QB to help us win in those situations. That PI call took all the wind out of the defense's sails, whatever remaining amount that was left. Gotta blame the defense for this loss. You're supposed to win when you score more than 30pts one would think. Our Dline just got abused in the 2nd half. Just completely abused. Ron Edwards got blown off the ball time after time again, we need a true NT. That's just the bottom god damn line. We need a large big fat motherer to plug up the middle. Shit I would make a trade w/ Baltimore for one, they have a surplus of 34 interior lineman. Safety play in this game was horrible. Where's Eric Berry? Jon Mcgraw is playig better than him by a considerable margin IMO....Jon **ing McGraw. Berry has talent, needs to get his shit together. I know he's a rookie, but damn he's been horrible more times than not.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1010478	http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ans-highlights 1:45 Cassel definitely overthrows Moeaki. And look at Bowe. He's open. More open than Moeaki. There's no safety, everyone was down in the box. Doubly whammy on Casshole. __________________ Chiefs game films
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