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ForeverChiefs58 · 02-11-2011, 03:36 PM

Pioli's Big Board
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:02 PM CST

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This is Mocking Dan's Top 100 of his actual Top 200. If the Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was parsing Dan's list from www.mockingthedraft.com who would we, could we, and should we look at? Lets dissect the best 2011 NFL Draft talent by scheme, then by need, then we will have a good criteria in place for the first three rounds of the Chiefs Draft. We have picks number 21, 55, and 88 around 122, 150, 154, 186, and 218 (ballparkish) as we sit today. So lets go

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RustShack · 02-22-2011, 08:08 PM

NT's are kind of an exception to most of our teams views.

**BigRedChief** · 02-22-2011, 08:20 PM

We need a WR, OL, OLB. We should take the best value at those positions in the first 2 rounds.

KCrockaholic · 02-22-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

NT's are kind of an exception to most of our teams views.

Nose Tackles need to be nasty.

**BossChief** · 02-23-2011, 01:44 AM

I would be almost willing to bet some serious money on the fact that this regime will give Studebaker his chance at the starting LOLB role next year before making any decision to invest anything significant into the position.

They have invested 2 years into the kid under the wing of Vrabel as well as recently re-signing him to a multiyear contract and I dont think for a second they would make a statement this soon of "we arent happy with Andy to the point that we are gonna invest a premium pick into his specific position.

I still think he can be a pretty damn good player in this defense and that in the limited times he was able to get on the field in a bigger role, the defense looked better for it.

Time will tell, as always.

...

I also wonder what kind of progress Sheffield has made toward recovery and if he will be able to contribute anything significant in the future. He looked like a possible stud in the senior bowl last year and I thought he had a legit chance at being a player, too.

Spending a first or second rounder on a player suited to play LOLB would be a sign that they dont feel either can be the guy we lean on in the coming years to man the position and I dont see that being the case at this point, maybe Im wrong.

jd1020 · 02-23-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I would be almost willing to bet some serious money on the fact that this regime will give Studebaker his chance at the starting LOLB role next year before making any decision to invest anything significant into the position.

They have invested 2 years into the kid under the wing of Vrabel as well as recently re-signing him to a multiyear contract and I dont think for a second they would make a statement this soon of "we arent happy with Andy to the point that we are gonna invest a premium pick into his specific position.

I still think he can be a pretty damn good player in this defense and that in the limited times he was able to get on the field in a bigger role, the defense looked better for it.

Time will tell, as always.

...

I also wonder what kind of progress Sheffield has made toward recovery and if he will be able to contribute anything significant in the future. He looked like a possible stud in the senior bowl last year and I thought he had a legit chance at being a player, too.

Spending a first or second rounder on a player suited to play LOLB would be a sign that they dont feel either can be the guy we lean on in the coming years to man the position and I dont see that being the case at this point, maybe Im wrong.

All valid points.

However, if we arent looking at OLB early on then I hate to think of what will happen if/when the Chiefs draft a LT and allow Asamoah to move back inside.

I really dont see many options outside of OLB, in the first, that wouldn't be an absolute stretch, assuming we can't trade down. Justin Houston is the closest thing to making sense. The WR's likely available arent worth the pick but if I had to choose between Baldwin/Smith I'd take Smith. There are no C's even remotely close to worthy. And don't get me started on T.

Maybe Pioli hops the fense and sprints home out of left field with a ???? pick.

**MahiMike** · 02-23-2011, 07:04 PM

Pouncey please!

Bewbies · 02-23-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Pouncey please!

ForeverChiefs58 · 02-25-2011, 05:26 PM

Mike Pouncey’s goals: Play center, get selected higher than his brother

The comparisons are inevitable: Mike Pouncey looks exactly like his brother Maurkice if you forget about the tattoos.

Their style of play isn’t as similar — depending on who you ask. Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports says Mike Pouncey is more of a piledriving guard than Maurkice, with unique power. Maurkice is more of a technician that seems to better handle the intricacies of the center position.

Mike doesn’t see it that way. He said Friday at the NFL Scouting Combine that he wants to play center at the next level. And he thinks he’s a lot like his twin brother.

“I think I block in the open field better, but like I said we’re the same player,” Pouncey said during an entertaining media session.

His goal is to get taken higher than No. 18 in the draft (where Maurkice was taken) or he’ll never hear the end of it. That goal seems rather high, but Mike says a few teams have told him he’s a better prospect than Maurkice. Most draft analysts disagree.

Pouncey confirmed he has met with Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh here. He’ll participate in all drills except for lifting and said that skipping the Senior Bowl was a “business decision.”

Steelers fans hoping for a Pouncey brothers combo platter shouldn’t get their hopes up yet, according to Mike.

“It’s not looking too good. But there’s free agency in the NFL.”

**buddha** · 03-01-2011, 03:36 PM

I'd go with Pouncey, plug him in at center, and you're set there for a dozen years. He is so athletic and quick.

02-11-2011, 03:36 PM
ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $815326	Pioli's Big Board Pioli's Big Board by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:02 PM CST 210 comments Email Print. This is Mocking Dan's Top 100 of his actual Top 200. If the Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was parsing Dan's list from www.mockingthedraft.com who would we, could we, and should we look at? Lets dissect the best 2011 NFL Draft talent by scheme, then by need, then we will have a good criteria in place for the first three rounds of the Chiefs Draft. We have picks number 21, 55, and 88 around 122, 150, 154, 186, and 218 (ballparkish) as we sit today. So lets go Lets eliminate the 4-3 defensive players and the Power Scheme blockers. 3. Da'Quan Bowers \| 6'4, 280 pounds \| DE \| Clemson * 4. Nick Fairley \| 6'5, 298 pounds \| DT \| Auburn * 10. Cameron Heyward \| 6'6, 288 pounds \| DE \| Ohio State 12. Adrian Clayborn \| 6'3, 282 pounds \| DE \| Iowa 13. Stephen Paea \| 6'1, 295 pounds \| DT \| Oregon State 22. Greg Jones \| 5'11, 228 pounds \| MLB \| Michigan State 24. Jurrell Casey \| 6'1, 305 pounds \| DT \| Southern California * 32. Marvin Austin \| 6'3, 305 pounds \| DT \| North Carolina 35. Von Miller \| 6'3, 240 pounds \| OLB \| Texas A&M 36. Gabe Carimi \| 6'7, 315 pounds \| OT \| Wisconsin 39. Corey Liuget \| 6'3, 300 pounds \| DT \| Illinois * 43. Drake Nevis \| 6'2, 285 pounds \| DT \| LSU 44. Rodney Hudson \| 6'2, 283 pounds \| G \| Florida State 48. Tyron Smith \| 6'6, 285 pounds \| OT \| Southern California * 52. Bruce Carter \| 6'3, 230 pounds \| OLB \| North Carolina 58. Mason Foster \| 6'2, 240 pounds \| OLB \| Washington 64. Quan Sturdivant \| 6'2, 235 pounds \| MLB \| North Carolina 66. Jarvis Jenkins \| 6'4, 305 pounds \| DT \| Clemson 78. Dontay Moch \| 6'1, 240 pounds \| DE/OLB \| Nevada 90. Lee Ziemba \| 6'8, 310 pounds \| OT \| Auburn -------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's eliminate those that are probably not falling to Pick # 21 1. A.J. Green \| 6'4, 200 pounds \| WR \| Georgia * 2. Patrick Peterson \| 6'1, 222 pounds \| CB \| LSU * 5. Julio Jones \| 6'4, 210 pounds \| WR \| Alabama * 6. Prince Amukamara \| 6'1, 200 pounds \| CB \| Nebraska 7. Marcell Dareus \| 6'3, 304 pounds \| DT/DE \| Alabama * 14. Cameron Jordan \| 6'4, 285 pounds \| DE \| California - interviewed By Chiefs --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's eliminate those positions we have good depth in or are probably not looking for a 1st-3rd rounder in. 11. Mark Ingram \| 5'10, 215 pounds \| RB \| Alabama * 18. Mikel Leshoure \| 6'0, 230 pounds \| RB \| Illinois * 21. Blaine Gabbert \| 6'5, 240 pounds \| QB \| Missouri * 25. Cam Newton \| 6'6, 246 pounds \| QB \| Auburn * 26. Kyle Rudolph \| 6'6, 265 pounds \| TE \| Notre Dame * 34. Ryan Williams \| 5'10, 210 pounds \| RB \| Virginia Tech ** 40. Ryan Mallett \| 6'7, 238 pounds \| QB \| Arkansas * 47. Jake Locker \| 6'3, 226 pounds \| QB \| Washington 61. Tyler Sash \| 6'1, 210 pounds \| SS \| Iowa * 65. DeAndre McDaniel \| 6'0, 212 pounds \| SS \| Clemson 71. Jordan Todman \| 5'9, 190 pounds \| RB \| Connecticut * 95. Ahmad Black \| 5'9, 185 pounds \| SS \| Florida ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's break out what is left by position groups: NT, 3-4 DE's and Tweener 3-4 OLB's 8. Robert Quinn \| 6'5, 265 pounds \| DE \| North Carolina * 9. Aldon Smith \| 6'4, 258 pounds \| DE \| Missouri ** 15. Justin Houston \| 6'3, 254 pounds \| DE/OLB \| Georgia * 23. J.J. Watt \| 6'6, 292 pounds \| DE/DT \| Wisconsin * 29. Allen Bailey \| 6'4, 285 pounds \| DT/DE \| Miami (Fla.) 31. Akeem Ayers \| 6'5, 254 pounds \| OLB \| UCLA * 33. Ryan Kerrigan \| 6'4, 255 pounds \| OLB \| Purdue 37. Muhammad Wilkerson \| 6'5, 305 pounds \| DT \| Temple * 73. Pernell McPhee \| 6'4, 285 pounds \| DE \| Mississippi State 75. Mark Herzlich \| 6'4, 248 pounds \| OLB \| Boston College 77. Phil Taylor \| 6'4, 355 pounds \| DT \| Baylor 80. Sione Fua \| 6'2, 307 pounds \| DT \| Stanford 86. Jeremy Beal \| 6'3, 261 pounds \| DE \| Oklahoma 89. Jerrell Powe \| 6'2, 340 pounds \| DT \| Mississippi 93. Lawrence Guy \| 6'5, 300 pounds \| DT \| Arizona State * 96. Sam Acho \| 6'3, 260 pounds \| DE \| Texas 98. Jabaal Sheard \| 6'4, 260 pounds \| DE \| Pittsburgh 99. Christian Ballard \| 6'5, 285 pounds \| DT/DE \| Iowa - interviewed By Chiefs Cornerbacks and Free Safeties 16. Brandon Harris \| 5'11, 195 pounds \| CB \| Miami (Fla.) * 30. Jimmy Smith \| 6'2, 205 pounds \| CB \| Colorado 38. Aaron Williams \| 6'1, 195 pounds \| CB \| Texas * 45. Rahim Moore \| 6'1, 195 pounds \| FS \| UCLA * 50. Johnny Patrick \| 6'0, 190 pounds \| CB \| Louisville 51. Quinton Carter \| 6'1, 195 pounds \| FS \| Oklahoma - interviewed By Chiefs 53. Brandon Burton \| 6'0, 185 pounds \| CB \| Utah * 54. Deunta Williams \| 6'2, 210 pounds \| FS \| North Carolina 59. Jaiquawn Jarrett \| 6'2, 202 pounds \| FS \| Temple 67. Ras-I Dowling \| 6'2, 200 pounds \| CB \| Virginia 68. Robert Sands \| 6'4, 221 pounds \| FS \| West Virgnia * 74. Curtis Brown \| 6'0, 184 pounds \| CB \| Texas 79. Davon House \| 6'0, 190 pounds \| CB \| New Mexico State 91. Tejay Johnson \| 6'1, 212 pounds \| FS \| TCU Eric Haag SS Nebraska - interviewed By Chiefs Offensive Linemen 17. Mike Pouncey \| 6'5, 320 pounds \| G/C \| Florida 20. Derek Sherrod \| 6'6, 300 pounds \| OT \| Mississippi State 28. Anthony Costanzo \| 6'7, 308 pounds \| OT \| Boston College - interviewed By Chiefs 41. Nate Solder \| 6'8, 305 pounds \| OT \| Colorado 46. Stefen Wisniewski \| 6'3, 302 pounds \| C \| Penn State 63. Kristofer O'Dowd \| 6'5, 300 pounds \| C \| Southern California - interviewed By Chiefs 70. DeMarcus Love \| 6'5, 315 pounds \| OT \| Arkansas 72. Danny Watkins \| 6'4, 310 pounds \| OT \| Baylor - 26 year old rookie offensive lineman 127. Jason Pinkston \| 6'4, 305 pounds \| OT \| Pittsburgh - interviewed By Chiefs 195. Stephen Schilling \| 6'5, 304 pounds \| G/OT \| Michigan - interviewed By Chiefs Receivers 19. Jonathan Baldwin \| 6'5, 220 pounds \| WR \| Pittsburgh * 27. Torrey Smith \| 6'1, 205 pounds \| WR \| Maryland * 55. Jerrell Jernigan \| 5'9, 185 pounds \| WR/KR \| Troy 56. D.J. Williams \| 6'2, 250 pounds \| TE \| Arkansas 57. Ronald Johnson \| 6'0, 190 pounds \| WR \| Southern California 60. Randall Cobb \| 5'11, 190 pounds \| WR/ATH \| Kentucky * 62. Titus Young \| 5'11, 170 pounds \| WR \| Boise State 76. Luke Stocker \| 6'6, 240 pounds \| TE \| Tennessee - interviewed By Chiefs 82. Leonard Hankerson \| 6'3, 215 pounds \| WR \| Miami (Fla.) 84. Weslye Saunders \| 6'5, 280 pounds \| TE \| South Carolina 92. Niles Paul \| 6'1, 220 pounds \| WR \| Nebraska 94. Greg Little \| 6'3, 210 pounds \| WR \| North Carolina 97. Vincent Brown \| 6'0, 195 pounds \| WR \| San Diego State ### Jock Sanders 5'7 179 WR West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs ### Dwayne Harris 6'0 205 WR East Carolina - interviewed By Chiefs Inside Linebackers 42. Nate Irving \| 6'1, 235 pounds \| MLB \| North Carolina State 49. Martez Wilson \| 6'4, 250 pounds \| MLB \| Illinois * 100. Kelvin Sheppard \| 6'3, 240 pounds \| MLB \| LSU Running backs and Quarterbacks 69. DeMarco Murray \| 6'1, 214 pounds \| RB \| Oklahoma 81. Pat Devlin \| 6'4, 220 pounds \| QB \| Delaware 83. Roy Helu \| 6'0, 215 pounds \| RB \| Nebraska 85. Noel Devine \| 5'8, 176 pounds \| RB \| West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs 87. Christian Ponder \| 6'2, 219 pounds \| QB \| Florida State 88. Shane Vereen \| 5'10, 199 pounds \| RB \| California * 110. Bilal Powell \| 6'0, 215 pounds \| RB \| Louisville - interviewed By Chiefs I can mark off players from the Chiefs Big Board that you all deem unworthy of consideration for the top 3 picks Riser and Sinkers from Draftcountdown blogs Scott Wright Go Chiefs
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02-22-2011, 08:20 PM	#77
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02-23-2011, 01:44 AM	#79
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1585912	I would be almost willing to bet some serious money on the fact that this regime will give Studebaker his chance at the starting LOLB role next year before making any decision to invest anything significant into the position. They have invested 2 years into the kid under the wing of Vrabel as well as recently re-signing him to a multiyear contract and I dont think for a second they would make a statement this soon of "we arent happy with Andy to the point that we are gonna invest a premium pick into his specific position. I still think he can be a pretty damn good player in this defense and that in the limited times he was able to get on the field in a bigger role, the defense looked better for it. Time will tell, as always. ... I also wonder what kind of progress Sheffield has made toward recovery and if he will be able to contribute anything significant in the future. He looked like a possible stud in the senior bowl last year and I thought he had a legit chance at being a player, too. Spending a first or second rounder on a player suited to play LOLB would be a sign that they dont feel either can be the guy we lean on in the coming years to man the position and I dont see that being the case at this point, maybe Im wrong. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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02-23-2011, 07:04 PM	#81
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Pouncey please! __________________ 99.9%
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02-25-2011, 05:26 PM	#83
ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $815326	Mike Pouncey’s goals: Play center, get selected higher than his brother The comparisons are inevitable: Mike Pouncey looks exactly like his brother Maurkice if you forget about the tattoos. Their style of play isn’t as similar — depending on who you ask. Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports says Mike Pouncey is more of a piledriving guard than Maurkice, with unique power. Maurkice is more of a technician that seems to better handle the intricacies of the center position. Mike doesn’t see it that way. He said Friday at the NFL Scouting Combine that he wants to play center at the next level. And he thinks he’s a lot like his twin brother. “I think I block in the open field better, but like I said we’re the same player,” Pouncey said during an entertaining media session. His goal is to get taken higher than No. 18 in the draft (where Maurkice was taken) or he’ll never hear the end of it. That goal seems rather high, but Mike says a few teams have told him he’s a better prospect than Maurkice. Most draft analysts disagree. Pouncey confirmed he has met with Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh here. He’ll participate in all drills except for lifting and said that skipping the Senior Bowl was a “business decision.” Steelers fans hoping for a Pouncey brothers combo platter shouldn’t get their hopes up yet, according to Mike. “It’s not looking too good. But there’s free agency in the NFL.”
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03-01-2011, 03:36 PM	#84
buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	I'd go with Pouncey, plug him in at center, and you're set there for a dozen years. He is so athletic and quick.
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