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Old 09-13-2011, 01:39 PM  
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PFF Grades the Chiefs

A few highlights:

1. The entire offensive line graded out positively in pass protection. Asamoah got dinged for a sack. Albert and Lilja had the highest grades in pass protection.

2. Our run blocking was not as good. Lilja, Wiegmann and Richardson had highly negative grades in run blocking.

3. Thomas Jones and Le'Ron McClain only played 3 snaps.

4. Kelly Gregg and Glenn Dorsey sucked. Negative grades, especially Gregg in run defense.

5. Kendrick Lewis was the worst player on the field. Primarily because of his awful run defense.

6. Justin Houston - 37 snaps. Allen Bailey - 27 snaps. Cameron Sheffield - 35 snaps. They're not ****ing around with the young guys.

7. Interestingly enough, Houston only rushed 3 times. There's something wrong with the scheme when Houston is rushing 3 times and Tyson Jackson is rushing 11.

8. Cassel dropped back 5 times "under pressure." 0 completions, 3 attempts. 2 sacks.

9. Jon McGraw, Sabby Piscitelli, Kendrick Lewis: Targeted eight times, allowed eight catches for 117 yards.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:26 PM   #76
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Holy Christ, who are the 9 below him?

McNabb and who else?
That's the thing about Cassel, though.

He puts up numbers that don't always look as bad as he actually plays.

This is why I always say that stats mean jack.

What I really mean is that without the context of seeing things as they are played out, stats don't provide any true insight.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:27 PM   #77
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Holy Christ, who are the 9 below him?

McNabb and who else?
Hasselbeck
Bradford
McNabb
Dalton
Orton
Roethlisberger
Sanchez
Gradkowski
Romo
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Was he plus or minus?
Barely positive. See, I'm guessing dumping the ball off for 3 yards isn't a negative play.

Some of those other quarterbacks were turning it over more, so that's going to bring their grade down.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:28 PM   #78
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That's the thing about Cassel, though.

He puts up numbers that don't always look as bad as he actually plays.

This is why I always say that stats mean jack.

What I really mean is that without the context of seeing things as they are played out, stats don't provide any true insight.
Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:29 PM   #79
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Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
No shit? Wow.
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:30 PM   #80
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Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
Nonsense, I had him graded perfectly with my Casseldometer. Swing passes rack up teh bonus points.
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Sunday was a historical performance.

No QB in NFL history has completed 22 passes or more and failed to gain 120 yards.

His numbers were awful, his play was awful, he's awful.

No context necessary.
Yet, what was it?, 9 QBs graded out lower than Matt Cassel.

I mean, just from the games I saw, did Romo and Sanchez play worse than did Matt Cassel?
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:32 PM   #82
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Hasselbeck
Bradford
McNabb
Dalton
Orton
Roethlisberger
Sanchez
Gradkowski
Romo
Collins



Barely positive. See, I'm guessing dumping the ball off for 3 yards isn't a negative play.

Some of those other quarterbacks were turning it over more, so that's going to bring their grade down.
I don't know if I'd put Roethlisberger below him. He's overrated, but better that Cassel.
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I don't know if I'd put Roethlisberger below him. He's overrated, but better that Cassel.


This is based on one game. Big Ben turned it over 5 times so of course his grade is lower.
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I don't know if I'd put Roethlisberger below him. He's overrated, but better that Cassel.
That's just based on Sunday's game.
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When I look at Andy Dalton's numbers, I wonder how he grades out lower than Matt Cassel?
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:52 PM   #86
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When I look at Andy Dalton's numbers, I wonder how he grades out lower than Matt Cassel?
That's why I thought it was overall.

Still, my bad.
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Yet, what was it?, 9 QBs graded out lower than Matt Cassel.

I mean, just from the games I saw, did Romo and Sanchez play worse than did Matt Cassel?
Not sure what the criteria used to grade was? But no way those two played worse than cassel. They made mistakes, but they also made plays to keep their team in the game.
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Not sure what the criteria used to grade was? But no way those two played worse than cassel. They made mistakes, but they also made plays to keep their team in the game.
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It's all about turnovers.

Apparently the grading system only takes into account what happens on the field.

When Cassel wakes up in the morning and decides to get out of bed he lowers the chance of his team winning games.
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It's all about turnovers.

Apparently the grading system only takes into account what happens on the field.

When Cassel wakes up in the morning and decides to get out of bed he lowers the chance of his team winning games.
Well, it's still ****ed then.

Both Romo and Sanchez threw for over 300 yards and had a 1:1 TD:Turnover ratio just like Cassel.

But the guy who threw for over 200 FEWER yards is graded higher?

I've lost all respect for PFF.
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Well, it's still ****ed then.

Both Romo and Sanchez threw for over 300 yards and had a 1:1 TD:Turnover ratio just like Cassel.

But the guy who threw for over 200 FEWER yards is graded higher?

I've lost all respect for PFF.
Yet milkman guessed those two. Why?

But I agree cassel has regressed and has been the suk for at least seven games. Since the last oakland game
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