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Old 12-04-2012, 10:55 AM   #1
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Kind of. If reports are true, police found him sleeping in his car and decided he was ok to drive home. If they had detained him, the whole chain of events changes.

Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting that the police are at fault. If he wasn't legally intoxicated, they had absolutely no grounds on which to detain him.
but then the other girl's neighbors let him sleep on their couch because he was too drunk to drive home?


that had to have happened AFTER the police incident. they woke him at 6:30 to go to a meeting by some reports.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:06 AM   #2
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:30 AM   #3
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The part I don't understand is how the police come upon Belcher sleeping in his car at 2AM or whatever. If a guy is sleeping in his car, likely the seats laid back. It would be very difficult to see him in his car in the middle of the night. And even if he was, why would the police want to wake him and, get all his information. It's not illegal to sleep in your car, and the weather was nice that night, the police wouldn't have been worried about his health from the cold. Something else happened during that time frame.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:31 AM   #4
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The part I don't understand is how the police come upon Belcher sleeping in his car at 2AM or whatever. If a guy is sleeping in his car, likely the seats laid back. It would be very difficult to see him in his car in the middle of the night. And even if he was, why would the police want to wake him and, get all his information. It's not illegal to sleep in your car, and the weather was night that night, the police wouldn't have been worried about his health from the cold. Something else happened during that time frame.
yeah, but a Bentley on parked on Armour at 2am?

...that would be suspicious to me.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #5
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yeah, but a Bentley on parked on Armour at 2am?

...that would be suspicious to me.
Those windows are nearly pitch black. How could a police officer see him in there sleeping.
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Those windows are nearly pitch black. How could a police officer see him in there sleeping.


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Old 12-04-2012, 11:45 AM   #7
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Those windows are nearly pitch black. How could a police officer see him in there sleeping.
Maybe he had lights or music on.
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Maybe he had lights or music on.
Don't know the neighborhood, maybe somebody called them?
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Maybe he had lights or music on.
Possibly. But that situation isn't completely clear.

What I do believe is that the story from a friend of Perkins about how they were up at 1AM arguing, is completely false. Or at least it wouldn't be possible if the story about him and the other girl are true.
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The part I don't understand is how the police come upon Belcher sleeping in his car at 2AM or whatever. If a guy is sleeping in his car, likely the seats laid back. It would be very difficult to see him in his car in the middle of the night. And even if he was, why would the police want to wake him and, get all his information. It's not illegal to sleep in your car, and the weather was nice that night, the police wouldn't have been worried about his health from the cold. Something else happened during that time frame.
Sorry, but if they find a black man in a Bentley sleeping they are running the plates and asking for ID. At least in Leawood, PV, OP, Mission, Fairway. Heck around here, if you are black and driving anything nice and newer than 2005 you are getting pulled over and checked out.

Maybe it's different in Missouri. I think they ran the plates saw WHO it was and let him skate.
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Sorry, but if they find a black man in a Bentley sleeping they are running the plates and asking for ID. At least in Leawood, PV, OP, Mission, Fairway. Heck around here, if you are black and driving anything nice and newer than 2005 you are getting pulled over and checked out.

Maybe it's different in Missouri. I think they ran the plates saw WHO it was and let him skate.
It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.
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It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.

Wouldn't they have run a breatholizer test to determine that? Or once they found out who he was choose not to if he promised to go home and be a good boy?

Didn't the friends say he could sleep on their couch because he was drunk? Did he go get drunk after being discovered by police and before he went to the GF2 house?
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Wouldn't they have run a breatholizer test to determine that? Or once they found out who he was choose not to if he promised to go home and be a good boy?
Don't know, haven't read the police report. And neither have you.

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Didn't the friends say he could sleep on their couch because he was drunk? Did he go get drunk after being discovered by police and before he went to the GF2 house?
First of all, his friends could have said he was coked out of his mind, doesn't mean he was. It's also possible that his friends think "drinking" equals drunk, when in the eyes of the law, they are most certainly not the same.
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It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.
Possessing the keys to the car you are in while intoxicated is sufficient for a DUI.
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