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DaWolf · 12-23-2012, 10:36 AM

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@AdamSchefter: The four GMs in most danger of losing jobs are Arizona’s Rod Graves, Cleveland’s Tom Heckert, Jacksonville’s Gene Smith, SD's A.J. Smith.

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@AdamSchefter: Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross has emerged as a leading candidate to become the Panthers next general manager, per sources.

No Pioli?

**RealSNR** · 12-23-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Great.

Polian is two years from retiring and handing the reigns of the franchise to his "legacy" - which was the reason he got shit canned in Indy.

****ing NFL nepotism is ridiculous and tragic. It's like watching the Renaissance era kingdoms of Europe **** and breed each other into complete incomptence and complacency.

Yeah, but Polian is the Habsburg line of inbred monarchs. If you're going to **** and breed incompetency, you may as well go big.

Titty Meat · 12-23-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Oooh, good point.

Still, I'd prefer an "up and comer" and a Kyle Shanahan...

but again, I won't lose sleep over Polian, Geno + head coach who likes offense.

I don't want any ****ing Jim Schwartz/Gunther or Ron Rivera bullshit.

I still like Marc Ross the most Tom Gamble would be my 2nd choice. I wouldn't mind Polian as long as his son doesn't come here.

Chief Roundup · 12-23-2012, 12:04 PM

Marc Ross drafts with the Giants. Not a whole lot of greatness here either.
2012
David Wilson
Rueben Randle
Jayron Hosley
Adrien Robinson
Brandon Mosley
Matt McCants
Markus Kuhn

2011
Prince Amukamara
Marvin Austin
Jerrel Jernigan
James Brewer
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jacquian Williams
Da'Rel Scott

2010
Jason Pierre-Paul
Linval Joseph
Phillip Dillard
Mitch Petrus
Adrian Tracy
Matt Dodge

2009
Hakeem Nicks
Clint Sintim
William Beatty
Ramses Barden
Travis Beckum
Andre Brown
Rhett Bomar
DeAndre Wright
Stoney Woodson

2008
Kenny Phillips
Terrell Thomas
Mario Manningham
Bryan Kehl
Jonathan Goff
Andre Woodson
Robert Henderson

2007
Aaron Ross
Steve Smith
Jay Alford
Zak DeOssie
Kevin Boss
Adam Koets
Michael Johnson
Ahmad Bradshaw

**RealSNR** · 12-23-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Look, I've been on record with my Eddie Kennison/Marvin Harrison theory many, many, many times.

Marvin Harrison was no better of a talent than Eddie Kennison; he just got drafted 1 pick after Kennison and then stumbled into Manning a year later.

Manning has never, ever, ever had a guy like he does this year with Demaryius Thomas.

Truth be told; A franchise QB, an all-time great like Manning...makes a good receiver a great receiver, a really good receiver a hall of fame receiver.

Just like Tom Brady did with guys like David Givens.

Manning turned average TE's like Jacob Tamme and Bryan Fletcher into guys who made plays on a consistent basis at times.

Now he's making Knowshon look like a real RB.

You think that's coincidence?

Come on.

Couldn't quite manage to make Joseph Addai or Donald Brown real RBs.

Hootie · 12-23-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Couldn't quite manage to make Joseph Addai or Donald Brown real RBs.

Both of those guys were more than passable in the Manning system.

**RealSNR** · 12-23-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Marc Ross drafts with the Giants. Not a whole lot of greatness here either.
2012
David Wilson
Rueben Randle
Jayron Hosley
Adrien Robinson
Brandon Mosley
Matt McCants
Markus Kuhn

2011
Prince Amukamara
Marvin Austin
Jerrel Jernigan
James Brewer
Greg Jones
Tyler Sash
Jacquian Williams
Da'Rel Scott

2010
Jason Pierre-Paul
Linval Joseph
Phillip Dillard
Mitch Petrus
Adrian Tracy
Matt Dodge

2009
Hakeem Nicks
Clint Sintim
William Beatty
Ramses Barden
Travis Beckum
Andre Brown
Rhett Bomar
DeAndre Wright
Stoney Woodson

2008
Kenny Phillips
Terrell Thomas
Mario Manningham
Bryan Kehl
Jonathan Goff
Andre Woodson
Robert Henderson

2007
Aaron Ross
Steve Smith
Jay Alford
Zak DeOssie
Kevin Boss
Adam Koets
Michael Johnson
Ahmad Bradshaw

That's actually pretty damn good.

He's got one or two drafts where he's hitting on 30-40% of his picks. A couple drafts like 2010 only gave him two good players, but damn those are two ****ing amazing players.

If the Chiefs could draft as well as this lineup after we take Geno Smith, we won't need more than 2 seasons to take over the AFC West. With a little bit of luck involved in the coaching hire, and if Geno Smith is as good as I think he can be, we'll be contending for the Super Bowl shortly after.

Those Mark Ross drafts in Kansas City is what we need.

milkman · 12-23-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Look, I've been on record with my Eddie Kennison/Marvin Harrison theory many, many, many times.

Marvin Harrison was no better of a talent than Eddie Kennison; he just got drafted 1 pick after Kennison and then stumbled into Manning a year later.

Manning has never, ever, ever had a guy like he does this year with Demaryius Thomas.

Truth be told; A franchise QB, an all-time great like Manning...makes a good receiver a great receiver, a really good receiver a hall of fame receiver.

Just like Tom Brady did with guys like David Givens.

Manning turned average TE's like Jacob Tamme and Bryan Fletcher into guys who made plays on a consistent basis at times.

Now he's making Knowshon look like a real RB.

You think that's coincidence?

Come on.

No, I don't think that's a coincidence.

But I also know that Harrison had a solid rookie season without Manning.

Eddie Kennison also had a good rookie season.

The difference in their careers is the QB, but Manning is not solely responsible for Harrison.

He was a good receiver that just benefitted from better QB play in his second season on, while Kennison had crap at QB throughout most of his career.

**RealSNR** · 12-23-2012, 12:13 PM

Remember when Kuharich was doing a good job? We only have Tamba Hali, Dwayne Bowe, and a few leftovers from 2008 still on the team. Three years of drafts, with two of those years only generating one ultra-stud pick each is all it took to lay a good foundation.

We need more and better players, but if we draft like Kuharich did in those three seasons, the Chiefs are looking VERY good.

Hootie · 12-23-2012, 12:13 PM

I'm just saying.

I think Peyton Manning would have had equal success anywhere he went...whether it was Indy, KC, Cleveland, New England, etc...

would Tom Brady have? I don't know, but I've always maintained he tripped into the perfect storm and through early success and with his moxie and swagger he developed into what he is today.

Agent V · 12-23-2012, 12:14 PM

I've said it before. Schefter does not acknowledge the Chiefs' existence. Doesn't he have a Denver bias, too?

**Rausch** · 12-23-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

I've said it before. Schefter does not acknowledge the Chiefs' existence. Doesn't he have a Denver bias, too?

Yes and yes...

Estron · 12-23-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Im certain about 50,000 chiefs fans on twitter tweeted 'uh pioli' Schef wont respond

The Chiefs don't have fifty thousand fans.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-23-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

OTWP

go pick any team and post their last 5 drafts

I don't need to post entire drafts. Good teams hit on elite players.

I'd trade every pick Pioli has made for someone like Watt, Von Miller, JPP, Aldon Smith, AJ Green, Julio Jones, etc.

Hell, look at the Packers. Have they missed on a WR pick? None of their young guys are R1 picks.

No one is saying you have to hit on every pick. But you better hit on some, and you better be picking some gamechangers along the way as well.

**RealSNR** · 12-23-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

I've said it before. Schefter does not acknowledge the Chiefs' existence. Doesn't he have a Denver bias, too?

I wonder whose dick he had to suck to get that job. It wasn't like he was the most amazing sports journalism prodigy every when he was with the Denver Post. If I remember correctly, Donk fans thought of him as we do Adam Teicher.

Chief Roundup · 12-23-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

That's actually pretty damn good.

He's got one or two drafts where he's hitting on 30-40% of his picks. A couple drafts like 2010 only gave him two good players, but damn those are two ****ing amazing players.

If the Chiefs could draft as well as this lineup after we take Geno Smith, we won't need more than 2 seasons to take over the AFC West. With a little bit of luck involved in the coaching hire, and if Geno Smith is as good as I think he can be, we'll be contending for the Super Bowl shortly after.

Those Mark Ross drafts in Kansas City is what we need.

I don't know man.
It is a little early to say much about the 2012 draft but Wilson has had a very mediocre season when Bradshaw and co. missed a lot of time.
Amukamara can't seem to stay healthy. The rest of 2011 is not impressive.
Pierre-Paul is good and Joseph has been ok but he has stomped a player for retaliating because Joseph was trying to pull him off the pile. The rest of 2010 is meh.
Hakeem Nicks is ok but is inconsistent at best and is dinged up easily. The rest of 2009 is pretty meh.
Kenny Philips and Terrell Thomas are ok but not great shut down anything.
There is a lot of mediocrity through all of those drafts.

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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1314792	Remember when Kuharich was doing a good job? We only have Tamba Hali, Dwayne Bowe, and a few leftovers from 2008 still on the team. Three years of drafts, with two of those years only generating one ultra-stud pick each is all it took to lay a good foundation. We need more and better players, but if we draft like Kuharich did in those three seasons, the Chiefs are looking VERY good.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm just saying. I think Peyton Manning would have had equal success anywhere he went...whether it was Indy, KC, Cleveland, New England, etc... would Tom Brady have? I don't know, but I've always maintained he tripped into the perfect storm and through early success and with his moxie and swagger he developed into what he is today.
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Agent V Bring me Geno. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	I've said it before. Schefter does not acknowledge the Chiefs' existence. Doesn't he have a Denver bias, too?
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