Chiefs Mellinger: First three months of Dorsey’s Chiefs regime far cry from *****’s - Page 6

The_Doctor10 · 04-06-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

The biggest problem with both Kolb and Vick is their inability to stay on the field; both are concussion magnets. Subtract some severe brain trauma, there's very little wrong with them as quarterbacks. Vick's second season in Philly was as dominant a season as a qb has had in the last fifteen years. And largely credited to the work Reid did with him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-06-2013, 09:34 PM

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The biggest problem with both Kolb and Vick is their inability to stay on the field; both are concussion magnets. Subtract some severe brain trauma, there's very little wrong with them as quarterbacks. Vick's second season in Philly was as dominant a season as a qb has had in the last fifteen years. And largely credited to the work Reid did with him.

This is a commonly held belief that happens to be completely false. Vick played tremendously for about a ten game stretch. That's not a full season of greatness.

There have been numerous other QBs who have put together tremendous aberrational years: Jake Delhomme, Steve Beuerlein, and Derek Anderson to name a few.

The_Doctor10 · 04-06-2013, 09:40 PM

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This is a commonly held belief that happens to be completely false. Vick played tremendously for about a ten game stretch. That's not a full season of greatness.

There have been numerous other QBs who have put together tremendous aberrational years: Jake Delhomme, Steve Beuerlein, and Derek Anderson to name a few.

Alright then; all im saying is reid isn't the sort to just commit blindly to one qb. So I have no doubt he's willing to jump on a qb who could be better than Alex smith. And I don't know that he thinks there's one in this draft.or at least, the talent differential isnt much between geno and a guy like Glennon, to justify taking him at 1.1 vs round 3.

And I assume if that's the case, the reasoning isn't 'I want to succeed only with Alex smith'

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-06-2013, 10:02 PM

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FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

rofl...vintage Hamas.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 04-06-2013, 10:07 PM

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FWIW, none of those guys he got to replace McNabb were good enough either. Washing down a shit sandwich with a glass of piss doesn't solve your problem.

IMO, this is where Bob Sutton's role takes on the utmost importance.

Reid has always been able to fabricate an efficient offense but since the death of Jim Johnson, his defenses have struggled enormously, which have led to losing seasons.

If Sutton can put together a top 12 or so defense, this team will be very good. But if he can't, then they'll struggle.

tk13 · 04-06-2013, 09:43 PM

It is interesting because it's not like Alex Smith has any connection to Reid or Dorsey prior to this. This is not like Pioli bringing in the late round pick he personally scouted and drafted.

tk13 · 04-06-2013, 10:10 PM

I have no idea what to expect from Manning. I was one of about 4 people who was not insanely excited about signing him because I knew he was barely able to grip a football a few months before. But he worked hard at getting better... although he didn't do very well in cold weather. Some people acted like his arm strength was fine, but I don't think he was the same guy at all.

Guys like Montana and Favre had one great season then regressed a bit at the end as age got to them. Elway won at that age but his team was loaded, Terrell Davis was running out of his mind. Bubby Brister won games with those teams.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-06-2013, 10:11 PM

Funny thing about Young is that SF gave up a first for him.

Hammock Parties · 04-06-2013, 10:12 PM

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Funny thing about Young is that SF gave up a first for him.

2nd and a 4th

It's just another appeal to minority, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-06-2013, 10:16 PM

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2nd and a 4th

It's just another appeal to minority, though.

I got my Steves confused. I think NO gave up a 1st for Steve Walsh.

Deberg_1990 · 04-06-2013, 10:20 PM

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I got my Steves confused. I think NO gave up a 1st for Steve Walsh.

Hahaha....for real? That dude had one of the weakest arms I've ever seen.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-06-2013, 10:22 PM

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Hahaha....for real? That dude had one of the weakest arms I've ever seen.

#1 and #3 the first year, #2 the next.

It was worse than the Herschel Walker deal in many respects.

OPgold · 04-06-2013, 10:21 PM

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I got my Steves confused. I think NO gave up a 1st for Steve Walsh.

Not only did they give up a 1st, they also gave up a 2nd and a 3rd.

That might be the first time those two were ever confused.

OPgold · 04-06-2013, 10:15 PM

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Funny thing about Young is that SF gave up a first for him.

They gave up a 2nd & a 4th for him. As I said, they fleeced Tampa.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-06-2013, 10:12 PM

One thing I DO know; it's time to end this Charger nonsense. That is one team that needs to start getting its ass kicked by KC on a regular basis. Oakland will rarely if ever be a sure win due to the rivalry, but that other paradigm needs to shift starting THIS year. Enough! (sorry, Buck)
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1677500	It is interesting because it's not like Alex Smith has any connection to Reid or Dorsey prior to this. This is not like Pioli bringing in the late round pick he personally scouted and drafted.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1677500	I have no idea what to expect from Manning. I was one of about 4 people who was not insanely excited about signing him because I knew he was barely able to grip a football a few months before. But he worked hard at getting better... although he didn't do very well in cold weather. Some people acted like his arm strength was fine, but I don't think he was the same guy at all. Guys like Montana and Favre had one great season then regressed a bit at the end as age got to them. Elway won at that age but his team was loaded, Terrell Davis was running out of his mind. Bubby Brister won games with those teams.
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