Chiefs Xs and Os: The Denver Pick Plays - Page 6

**petegz28** · 11-10-2013, 08:56 PM

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/nf...blockID=949223

Very interesting read...long but interesting

listopencil · 11-10-2013, 10:28 PM

Did you guys get to the end of that article?

"My takeaway is that this is one of many ways that this Denver team can beat you and that smart offenses should look to steal these ideas. Not sure the officials will always afford you the same wiggle room that Manning gets, but if the NFL doesn't see this as anything more than "football", then teams are not using all their advantages to mount drives and scores with a simple technique like this."

Silock · 11-10-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Did you guys get to the end of that article?

"My takeaway is that this is one of many ways that this Denver team can beat you and that smart offenses should look to steal these ideas. Not sure the officials will always afford you the same wiggle room that Manning gets, but if the NFL doesn't see this as anything more than "football", then teams are not using all their advantages to mount drives and scores with a simple technique like this."

Hoping that the referees ignore the rules doesn't seem like a great strategy.

WhiteWhale · 11-10-2013, 10:31 PM

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REP for knowing good music.

Well my taste in women, wine, professions, and food all leave a lot to be desired... so at least I have that.

Chiefshrink · 11-10-2013, 10:32 PM

C'mon Chieftan Fans !! Stop will ya !!! Just stop all the 'cheating BS' talk ! All it does is show your anxiety about next week's game. Not my anxiety of course BUT this 'cheating BS talk' reminds me of all the Bronco O-line so-called illegal zone blocking crap

Play the game and let chips fall where they may !! But the Colts did show how to beat the Donks. In Mannings face all game and play man to man in our 2ndary the whole game while we chew up the clock with dink and dunk and the run

WhiteWhale · 11-10-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Did you guys get to the end of that article?

"My takeaway is that this is one of many ways that this Denver team can beat you and that smart offenses should look to steal these ideas. Not sure the officials will always afford you the same wiggle room that Manning gets, but if the NFL doesn't see this as anything more than "football", then teams are not using all their advantages to mount drives and scores with a simple technique like this."

The dumbest thing about this is some weird idea that Manning is behind it.

Teams have been doing this forever. It can kill a drive if the officials 'decide' to call it though, and Manning is more likely to get defensive holding or defensive PI if his WR runs over a defender.

It sucks, but it's not new.

WhiteWhale · 11-10-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

C'mon Chieftan Fans !! Stop will ya !!! Just stop all the 'cheating BS' talk ! All it does is show your anxiety about next week's game. Not my anxiety of course BUT this 'cheating BS talk' reminds me of all the Bronco O-line so-called illegal zone blocking crap

Play the game and let chips fall where they may !! But the Colts did show how to beat the Donks. In Mannings face all game and play man to man in our 2ndary the whole game while we chew up the clock with dink and dunk and the run

I agree, though my opinions on cut blocking have no changed.

I support it, but not under the current rules. It still allows guys to cut defenders from 'blind spots'. They cut guys from behind and if their helmet is in front of the knee it's legal. I don't like that. Personal opinion though.

Red Dawg · 11-10-2013, 10:36 PM

Manning can't throw with power anymore so this is their main offense. It was these plays all night tonight.

Nightfyre · 11-10-2013, 10:38 PM

There were numerous instances of OPI tonight that went uncalled. I blame the NFL for putting Manning on a pedestal.

Silock · 11-10-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

There were numerous instances of OPI tonight that went uncalled. I blame the NFL for putting Manning on a pedestal.

Poe = pedestal destroyer

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2013, 01:01 PM

The era of Manning Entitlement is about to come to a bloody close.

Dayze · 11-11-2013, 01:30 PM

if our defenders see a pick coming, they need to launch into the receiver.
they also need to jack any receiver coming over the middle, or otherwise, that are in the 5-6 yd range. whether they're getting the ball or not. hell, even if the play has already passed to a different receiver, jack the dude in the chops.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2013, 10:50 PM

If Denver thinks for one minute that our defense is coming for anything other than blood, they are out of their goddamned minds.

Sorter · 11-11-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

The CHEATING DONX run illegal picks as much as Indy used to when BIG HEAD played there. Now add a little Crisco to the OL and chop blocks & they'll be just as bad as the HORSE FACE CHEATING DONX were. **** EVERYTHING Denver!

Alex Gibbs is a consultant there now, IIRC.

Sorter · 11-11-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

if our defenders see a pick coming, they need to launch into the receiver.
they also need to jack any receiver coming over the middle, or otherwise, that are in the 5-6 yd range. whether they're getting the ball or not. hell, even if the play has already passed to a different receiver, jack the dude in the chops.

Which receiver?

Additionally, you can see "designed picks" from spacing concepts as well as "dragon" (see Direckshun, the WC terminology is finally breaking through).

bowener · 11-12-2013, 12:12 AM

I kind of hope they do this to Houston and he lays a shoulder into Decker's facemask at full speed. I'm certain they will throw the flag on us, but Decker may not run the picks with as much enthusiasm next time.

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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4699358	if our defenders see a pick coming, they need to launch into the receiver. they also need to jack any receiver coming over the middle, or otherwise, that are in the 5-6 yd range. whether they're getting the ball or not. hell, even if the play has already passed to a different receiver, jack the dude in the chops. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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