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oaklandhater · 09-22-2015, 04:17 AM

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Frustrated Pagano tough on Luck after loss

Posted by Zac Jackson on September 22, 2015, 1:21 AM EDT
Chuck Pagano, Andrew Luck
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The Colts were a mess from the beginning Monday night and were ultimately doomed by five turnovers — three Andrew Luck interceptions — in a 20-7 loss to the Jets.

After the game, Colts coach Chuck Pagano didn’t try to hide his frustration with his quarterback and his team as a whole.

“He’s got to take care of the football,” Pagano said in his postgame press conference. “It’s not that hard. It’s not trigonometry.”

The simple math says that the Colts have scored three touchdowns and committed eight turnovers through two games, both losses.

“Can’t turn the damn ball over,” Pagano said.

Gregg Doyel of the Indianapolis Star, who was at the game and at the postgame press conference, wrote that Pagano was “throwing Luck under the bus.”

While the Jets clearly frustrated Luck with a variety of blitzes and sometimes just by simply overpowering them in one-on-one battles in the trenches, Pagano hinted that Luck has to overcome his line’s shortcomings.

“[That has] been the case for three years now, hasn’t it?” Pagano asked. “He should be more than comfortable dealing with it.”

**srvy** · 09-22-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

That was a craptastic gameplan the Colts used last night...throwing bombs against the best secondary in the NFL. Jets D-line is top 5 too...bad time to expect long routes to develop.

Gore was having success...and they quit using him.

That GM might be the worst in the league.

The fumble by Gore inside the 5 was horrible and smiling on the sideline till the cameras hit him told me all I need to know bout where that team is.

RunKC · 09-22-2015, 09:54 AM

Best part of this Colts draft blunder.

Impact of defensive players through 2 games that the Colts passed on to select Phillip Dorsett

Stephone Anthony-11 tackles, 3 TFL, 1 pass defended, 7 run stops
Hau'oli Kikaha-1 sack and 7 total QB pressures, 5 run stops
Malcolm Brown-1 sack and 2 QB hurries, 2 run stops
Preston Smith-1 sack and 1 run stop on only 27 plays

Colts ****ed up and Saints had a great draft

**Mav** · 09-22-2015, 10:04 AM

Yeah bro. Luck is the issue. Not your shitty oline, your inability to stop Ryan Fitzpatrick. Definitely Luck. Jesus Christ. If I were luck I'd ask out of Indy asap.

Chiefnj2 · 09-22-2015, 10:06 AM

They have a young QB they can try to build a dynasty around and they spend the offseason loading up on 30+ year old players to make a quick run without an OL and Defense. Brilliant !!

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Yeah bro. Luck is the issue. Not your shitty oline, your inability to stop Ryan Fitzpatrick. Definitely Luck. Jesus Christ. If I were luck I'd ask out of Indy asap.

That would be the greatest thing to happen ever. The Colts draft Luck and don't win anything with him....and then he just leaves.

**RealSNR** · 09-22-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

What has two thumbs spent its first two fantasy picks on Luck and CJ Anderson?

THIS GUY!

Me too.

I did it for Chiefs fans, though. All Chiefs fans. My stink has made them terrible players.

**RealSNR** · 09-22-2015, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Yeah bro. Luck is the issue. Not your shitty oline, your inability to stop Ryan Fitzpatrick. Definitely Luck. Jesus Christ. If I were luck I'd ask out of Indy asap.

I said that earlier, but now I retract it.

Manning would retire, Luck would leave, and guess where he'd end up.

Yeah. **** that with AIDS.

**notorious** · 09-22-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Maybe... Reeves was also fairly conservative until the situation needed something drastic. There's a whole lot of reasons why Elway and Reeves clashed.

Reeves wanted to slow things down, control the clock and win it with a barefoot kicker if need be... but, when things were close to hitting the fan, Elway could turn things around.

100% agree.

Elway had to force a lot of throws, because just like Luck, the rest of his team was mediocre.

Hootie · 09-22-2015, 10:41 AM

the offensive line for the Colts may, MAY very well be the issue

Just hilarious, HILARIOUS, to hear Chiefs fans giving a QB a pass because of the OL

typical CP

Hootie · 09-22-2015, 10:46 AM

the absolute best stat to look at to determine how good an NFL QB is in 2015 is using QBR. Plain and simple. It just is. And if you go look at the yearly top QBR since it's induction in 2006, it ALMOST ALWAYS makes sense.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-22-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

I said that earlier, but now I retract it.

Manning would retire, Luck would leave, and guess where he'd end up.

Yeah. **** that with AIDS.

Ugh. I'd be done with the NFL if that happened.

**RealSNR** · 09-22-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

the offensive line for the Colts may, MAY very well be the issue

Just hilarious, HILARIOUS, to hear Chiefs fans giving a QB a pass because of the OL

typical CP

I see a lot of Chiefs fans who stress the importance of the offensive line for the QB no matter who it is-- Cassel, Smith, Manning, or Luck. That's what's going on here.

I agree that an awful offensive line will take away from the QB's ability to execute and perform well. I haven't been watching any Colts games, so I have no idea how bad Andy Luck's line is, but something tells me it's no worse than the line the Chiefs had last year and still beat some pretty good defenses and teams.

I would guess this is more about Luck going through a slump than it is about his offensive line, but again, not having seen any Colts games this year, I can't act like my opinion has any weight on this issue.

Still, though. **** Andrew Luck.

RunKC · 09-22-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

That would be the greatest thing to happen ever. The Colts draft Luck and don't win anything with him....and then he just leaves.

I think it would be the worst thing to happen because you know where he will probably go? Denver

**RealSNR** · 09-22-2015, 11:18 AM

Elway = Horseface

Luck = Gopherface

**** that situation. I guess I'll take Luck on the Colts. Maybe Irsay will go on a huge bender and keep Grigson around for several more years. That'd be wonderful.

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2015, 11:21 AM

Colts going to piss Luck off, Manning retires and the Donks get Luck. That would be Chiefs luck right there.

09-22-2015, 04:17 AM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5888993	Pagano Tosses Luck under the bus http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ck-after-loss/ Frustrated Pagano tough on Luck after loss Posted by Zac Jackson on September 22, 2015, 1:21 AM EDT Chuck Pagano, Andrew Luck AP The Colts were a mess from the beginning Monday night and were ultimately doomed by five turnovers — three Andrew Luck interceptions — in a 20-7 loss to the Jets. After the game, Colts coach Chuck Pagano didn’t try to hide his frustration with his quarterback and his team as a whole. “He’s got to take care of the football,” Pagano said in his postgame press conference. “It’s not that hard. It’s not trigonometry.” The simple math says that the Colts have scored three touchdowns and committed eight turnovers through two games, both losses. “Can’t turn the damn ball over,” Pagano said. Gregg Doyel of the Indianapolis Star, who was at the game and at the postgame press conference, wrote that Pagano was “throwing Luck under the bus.” While the Jets clearly frustrated Luck with a variety of blitzes and sometimes just by simply overpowering them in one-on-one battles in the trenches, Pagano hinted that Luck has to overcome his line’s shortcomings. “[That has] been the case for three years now, hasn’t it?” Pagano asked. “He should be more than comfortable dealing with it.”
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the offensive line for the Colts may, MAY very well be the issue Just hilarious, HILARIOUS, to hear Chiefs fans giving a QB a pass because of the OL typical CP
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the absolute best stat to look at to determine how good an NFL QB is in 2015 is using QBR. Plain and simple. It just is. And if you go look at the yearly top QBR since it's induction in 2006, it ALMOST ALWAYS makes sense.
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