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Old 02-13-2016, 11:13 AM  
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NFL's Best OLB: Houston vs. Miller

Got into a debate with a Donkey fan regarding this topic earlier this week, but I love it. I think it's one that can be argued both ways, but personally I take a healthy Houston every day over a healthy Miller. Place your vote and make your own case below.

Things to keep in mind:

Justin Houston career numbers:
- 64 starts
-56 sacks (2011: 5.5 in 10 starts, 2012: 10.0 in 16 starts, 2013: 11.0 in 11 starts, 2014: 22.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 7.5 in 10 games)
- 3 interceptions
- 25 passes defensed
- 8 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 safety
- Hasn't been flagged for anything since the 2013 season


Von Miller career numbers:
- 72 starts
- 60 sacks (2011: 11.5 in 15 starts, 2012: 18.5 in 16 starts, 2013: 5.0 in 9 starts, 2014: 14.0 in 16 starts, 2015: 11.0 in 16 starts)
- 1 interception
- 10 passes defensed
- 17 forced fumbles/ 5 recoveries
- 1 touchdown (INT), 1 touchdown (fumble recovery), 0 safeties
- Consistently penalized, often for personal fouls

For me, considering the numbers..... I still take Houston. Statistically, I can argue he's been better in every phase of the game except for forcing fumbles. Miller does have the playoff success to attribute in his argument, but Houston of course didn't hardly play in this year's playoffs. Regardless, this a fun topic no matter the time of year. So, who do you take?
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:14 PM   #76
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I want to see Houston in a big game before I make my decision.

Miller played his best when it mattered the most.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:15 PM   #77
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:17 PM   #78
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I want to see Houston in a big game before I make my decision.
The Colts game?
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:17 PM   #79
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I'm shocked that the homer vote isn't overwhelming.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:50 PM   #80
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The Colts game?
He had a sack, and considering he was playing with an elbow brace and hadn't played in two months, that ain't bad.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:51 PM   #81
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He had a sack, and considering he was playing with an elbow brace and hadn't played in two months, that ain't bad.
I think the point is he didn't impact that game the way Miller impacted games this postseason.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:54 PM   #82
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:17 PM   #83
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Houston is better in every single statistical category on a per start basis except for FF's.

That said, there isn't much difference. The only thing that really sways me is that Houston has shown to be better out in coverage when he's asked to drop and he doesn't commit the stupid penalties that Miller does.

I could care less about the playoff comparisons. Houston was significantly injured and those calling him a pussy are flat-out ****ing stupid. The fact he even tried to play on that injury is ridiculous on his part.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:03 PM   #84
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Miller plays when the team needs him. Miller hands down.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:23 PM   #85
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As soon as I see Houston carry the team to a Super Bowl victory, I will vote for him.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:46 PM   #86
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Miller plays when the team needs him. Miller hands down.
Like agianst Seattle two years ago?


It's a moot point. Both players are very good.
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Miller plays when the team needs him. Miller hands down.
Houston was injured. Von was injured in their last SB and it showed when they got blasted.

It's unfortunate and it sucks but a lot of playoff success depends on luck and the Donks didn't have any real injury problems in the playoffs.
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Houston was injured. Von was injured in their last SB and it showed when they got blasted.

It's unfortunate and it sucks but a lot of playoff success depends on luck and the Donks didn't have any real injury problems in the playoffs.
Sure we did. The reason that Brady was almost able to bring the Patriots back was that both of our safeties were out for part of the second half of the AFCC.
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Both are elite. Houston is asked to do way more than Von is in the overall scheme. You can't go wrong with either guy, really.

I'd love to see a breakdown of how many times each just purely rush the passer per game. If Houston were to chase QB's as much as Von, his flashy sack stats would be way higher.
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That signature of yours is pretty cute, you know if you change it to starts instead of games, Houston is more consistent? Well, you know now.
This is not true. If you only count the games he's started, Houston has gotten a sack in 50.7% of his games. That still isn't as consistent as Von.
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