Chiefs Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow - Page 6

RunKC · 10-30-2016, 02:25 PM

7 sacks in 7 games this year. Technically 8 if not for Tamba being a dumbass last week.

11 sacks in 14 games started in his career.

Beast

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 06:55 PM

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

Deberg_1990 · 10-30-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

Can't you just enjoy a kid playing well and being a major contributor?

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:04 PM

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Can't you just enjoy a kid playing well and being a major contributor?

I know it's difficult to understand... He had a good game today against dog shit. I'm happy. I'm not eating crow about him though.

Rasputin · 10-30-2016, 07:08 PM

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I know it's difficult to understand... He had a good game today against dog shit. I'm happy. I'm not eating crow about him though.

Is it common for crow to eat crow? I wouldn't think you would eat yourself.

NJChiefsFan · 10-30-2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

He's not starting over Tamba when Houston is back. 3rd down spell for either will work, but I cant see him starting over Hali. Ford has been improving, but Hali has been playing consistently well.

Is Tamba even outsnapping Zombo this year? I think Ford will get more plays than Tamba.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Current NFL Sack leaders:
1. Lorenzo Alexander 9.0
2. Vic Beasley 7.5
2. Von Miller 7.5
4. Brian Orakpo 7.0
4. Dee Ford 7.0
— Mike Conti (@MikeConti929) October 30, 2016

No matter what you think of Ford or what players he has beaten, this is hilarious. 0.5 sack less than Miller. Calling Ford a bust was always a massively premature thing to do. Even 2 years isn't exactly a lot of time.

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Is it common for crow to eat crow? I wouldn't think you would eat yourself.

It would be kinda weird

Mother****erJones · 10-30-2016, 07:15 PM

Ford absolutely starts the rest of the year

Tamba is all but done. Dadi will start to get more and more snaps. When Houston gets back and I don't want him rushed, we can rotate Hali, Dadi and Zombo occasionally.

RunKC · 10-30-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

I never understood people putting down Ford for playing bad competition. Von Miller got 3 sacks against the same team and same players. He also got a lot of sacks on our garbage OL the last few years.
Khalil Mack got 5 sacks a horrible Michael Schofield.
Justin Houston got 4 sacks in a game against a horrible Chargers OL 2 years ago as well as several other sacks on other bad players that year.

So those not count either?

-King- · 10-30-2016, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

I'm not talking about madden

ROLB/RDE - Hali
Houston in at his normal spot LOLB

Bring Ford in on the left of Dline (with extra Dline because of passing down)

Extra pass rushers are used by other teams all the time

It's really shocking how little people around here actually know about football.

Ironic post is ironic

. The person who doesn't understand football positions is telling others that they don't understand football.
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kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I never understood people putting down Ford for playing bad competition. Von Miller got 3 sacks against the same team and same players. He also got a lot of sacks on our garbage OL the last few years.
Khalil Mack got 5 sacks a horrible Michael Schofield.
Justin Houston got 4 sacks in a game against a horrible Chargers OL 2 years ago as well as several other sacks on other bad players that year.

So those not count either?

They count, but not as much in my book. Making a big play to shut down a drive in the middle of a game against a good player that helps turn the tide? That's a good play. Getting a garbage time sack against a 3rd string RT? That's not the same level play. I'm not saying Ford isn't making some plays, but there's alot more I expect out of the kid before I call him even an average 3-4 OLB at this point. Sacks aren't the entire story of a player. I've seen plenty of guys have a 7-10 sack season by almost sheer luck and go back to sucking total balls. Ford needs to get pressure every game, multiple series a game, and he needs to play the run far better. When he does that, I'll eat some crow. 5.5 of his 7 sacks came against 2 atrocious backup right tackles. He's been relatively irrelevant otherwise. Let's not suck the kid's dick just yet.

**Bob Dole** · 10-30-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.

So basically, you haven't been watching the games.

RunKC · 10-30-2016, 07:31 PM

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They count, but not as much in my book. Making a big play to shut down a drive in the middle of a game against a good player that helps turn the tide? That's a good play. Getting a garbage time sack against a 3rd string RT? That's not the same level play. I'm not saying Ford isn't making some plays, but there's alot more I expect out of the kid before I call him even an average 3-4 OLB at this point. Sacks aren't the entire story of a player. I've seen plenty of guys have a 7-10 sack season by almost sheer luck and go back to sucking total balls. Ford needs to get pressure every game, multiple series a game, and he needs to play the run far better. When he does that, I'll eat some crow. 5.5 of his 7 sacks came against 2 atrocious backup right tackles. He's been relatively irrelevant otherwise. Let's not suck the kid's dick just yet.

That's fair I guess, but he's gotten a sack (or combined sack) in 5/7 games this year. I would definitely consider that consistent as far as making a play . Unfortunately Tamba erased his sack last week though.

He's not perfect, but I'm seeing such a big mark of consistency. He's not Houston but he's looking like a damn good complimentary OLB in the making

kccrow · 10-30-2016, 07:31 PM

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So basically, you haven't been watching the games.

I don't wash players' balls because I do watch the games.

You want to know the player I would eat the most crow on right now? Parker Ehinger. But the kid can't stay healthy.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-30-2016, 07:33 PM

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Ironic post is ironic

. The person who doesn't understand football positions is telling others that they don't understand football.

The Chiefs have already discussed having all three pass rushers on the field and are excited about it.

The first time you say something relevant will be the first time.

One more time, with feeling:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

When Justin Houston comes back, how do you see Dee Ford fitting in? He’s earned a place in there somewhere. Maybe split with Tamba Hali? — @RealMcCoy44

Ford has absolutely earned a role going forward. With his huge 3 1/2 -sack game, Ford has recorded seven this season, which puts him on pace for 16. And here’s the thing ... he genuinely seems to be looking forward to Houston’s return. Hali, 32, is dealing with knee problems and is content with a pinch-hitting role, so I’d imagine a solid three-man rotation — with Ford featured prominently — is in the cards.

On passing downs, all three of them can play, with either Hali or Houston shifting inside. It will be up to defensive coordinator Bob Sutton to make it work, but I can tell you those guys are looking forward to it.

**Bob Dole** · 10-30-2016, 07:35 PM

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I don't wash players' balls because I do watch the games.

You want to know the player I would eat the most crow on right now? Parker Ehinger. But the kid can't stay healthy.

Ah. The "You're a ball washer" argument.

He has not been a liability against the run this season. But carry on.

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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1240000	Eat crow about what? He still isn't good against the run, has one pass rush "move," and gets all his sacks against backups to backups. I'm not anointing the kid something great because he has some sacks. When he's a consistently good, complete OLB, then I'll eat crow.
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