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Old 01-03-2019, 08:13 PM   #1
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I guess you could franchise Ford and make him prove it again. That's probably a better idea but the cost could skyrocket.
I guess I'd tag him if I couldnt get a trade for him and you resign Jones.

If Ford is trade you keep Houston hope Speaks improves. Going to be alot of stud defensive ends at the end of the first you can grab to pair with Jones. Jones/Houston/ rookie and the combo of Speaks/Kpass maybe? Isnt awful. What you lose with Ford you could gain by grabbing a couple of corners in the draft to pair with Fuller sign another Vet CB to a 1 year deal.

Were kinda stuck with Berry, Watts, Lucas and MAYBE Thomas? Who knows what a guy like that will command given his injuries but I dont think its a stretch to say theres probably mutual interest considering that trade almost went down?


Secondary as follows: Rookie CB, Rookie CB, Fuller, Vet maybe? Ward, and Smith. Berry, Thomas?, Watts, Lucas.

That's a pretty damn good secondary no?
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:15 PM   #2
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I guess I'd tag him if I couldnt get a trade for him and you resign Jones.

If Ford is trade you keep Houston hope Speaks improves. Going to be alot of stud defensive ends at the end of the first you can grab to pair with Jones. Jones/Houston/ rookie and the combo of Speaks/Kpass maybe? Isnt awful. What you lose with Ford you could gain by grabbing a couple of corners in the draft to pair with Fuller sign another Vet CB to a 1 year deal.

Were kinda stuck with Berry, Watts, Lucas and MAYBE Thomas? Who knows what a guy like that will command given his injuries but I dont think its a stretch to say theres probably mutual interest considering that trade almost went down?


Secondary as follows: Rookie CB, Rookie CB, Fuller, Vet maybe? Ward, and Smith. Berry, Thomas?, Watts, Lucas.

That's a pretty damn good secondary no?
I bet they end up trading a pick for a current corner

Peterson maybe
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:10 PM   #3
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Its baffling how the same folks who went ape shit about paying Berry who was always injured now want to pay Ford.
Our pass rush is our one redeeming defensive quality. A franchise tag obligates us to pay one season's top salary. It allows us to keep the option to continue to franchise tag the guy in the future if he replicates this season's production.

Ford is the EXACT player we should franchise. One who hasn't been consistent but MIGHT be coming into his own and MIGHT be worth something more.

The problem with Berry has been the multi-year commitment to an injured player.
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:03 PM   #4
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Franchise ford them let him walk
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:05 PM   #5
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Franchise ford them let him walk
I bet you could get a 2nd and something for Ford tho
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:09 PM   #6
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I bet you could get a 2nd and something for Ford tho
He might be the difference in winning them a Super Bowl in 2019 if he plays like he has this year, and he could still make that difference for 2018 as well. I’m not sure that’s worth the 2nd round pick.
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He might be the difference in winning them a Super Bowl in 2019 if he plays like he has this year, and he could still make that difference for 2018 as well. I’m not sure that’s worth the 2nd round pick.
You’d get a 2nd and whatever money you save from not having to tag him
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:13 PM   #8
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You’d get a 2nd and whatever money you save from not having to tag him
Yeah that’s good but like I said, keeping him or losing him in 2019 might be the difference in winning the Super Bowl or not. He’s been that good this year.
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I bet you could get a 2nd and something for Ford tho
Would be fine with that
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:15 PM   #10
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Ford is the guy commanding chips from tight ends and running backs now, not Houston. Watch our last several games, watch the playoff game coming up. The announcers always mention it too—how the opponent is always most worried about Ford.

He’s making everyone else’s job easier even when he isn’t necessarily racking up sacks.
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If we're in a position to take a corner like Greedy Williams in the 20-23rd spot then you absolutely move up and take it.
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We need to find a way to keep Ford and Houston so we can go into next year with our pass rush intact. Ford, Jones, Houston and Speaks. Then we need to shore up the back end. If this D can make the QB hold the ball for a second longer we'll be a sack machine.
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:37 PM   #13
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We need to find a way to keep Ford and Houston so we can go into next year with our pass rush intact. Ford, Jones, Houston and Speaks. Then we need to shore up the back end. If this D can make the QB hold the ball for a second longer we'll be a sack machine.
And we can’t discount the potential impact of coaching changes on defense. I think we already saw that to a minor extent last week. I’m not saying we necessarily have a bunch of hidden gems on the defense or anything, but I’m pretty certain that we aren’t getting the most out of what we do have.
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Old 01-03-2019, 08:40 PM   #14
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And we can’t discount the potential impact of coaching changes on defense. I think we already saw that to a minor extent last week. I’m not saying we necessarily have a bunch of bidding gems on the defense or anything, but I’m pretty certain that we aren’t getting the most out of what we do have.
100% we are not getting the most out of what we have
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Also I think we undervalue Houston. I'd like to see how many more times Ford has rushed the passer opposed to Houston who can do it all and for as much shit as hes gotten he still has 9 sacks this year and that's with missing some time and a shitty secondary. Give him the secondary I laid out hes easily a double digit sack guy.
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