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Old 03-29-2023, 08:39 AM  
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***Official 2023 STL Cardinals Thread ***
2023 thread. Walker makes the roster. I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its official

2023 Opening Day Lineup
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2022 Opening Day roster.
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For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.
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Old 07-15-2023, 11:33 AM   #931
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Old 07-15-2023, 01:02 PM   #932
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Old 07-15-2023, 04:07 PM   #933
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Arozarena, Garcia, and Lane Thomas have a combined 8.4 WAR this year, which is more than Goldschmidt, Arenado, Noot, Donovan, O'Neill, Liberatore, and Carlson combined.

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Old 07-15-2023, 07:37 PM   #934
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More likely it would mean you stop pretending Gorman is ever going to be a 2b.
I’ve not watched all the games. Games I watch I fast forward through a lot. That said, what I’ve seen Gorman has been an acceptable 2nd baseman.
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Old 07-17-2023, 04:17 PM   #935
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So I have been hearing that the Tampa Bay Rays are interested in Jack Flaherty and Jordan Montgomery.
What would you all want in return for such a trade?
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Old 07-17-2023, 04:24 PM   #936
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So I have been hearing that the Tampa Bay Rays are interested in Jack Flaherty and Jordan Montgomery.
What would you all want in return for such a trade?
They have a loaded system.

The problem is that they're MUCH smarter than we are. If they have someone they're willing to give up, you should probably look elsewhere. They know more about their players than we know about ours, that's for damn sure.

They have so much IF depth but honestly that's the one area that we're in okay shape in. Then again, Caminero, Mead and Manzardo aren't guys you get for the Flaherty/Montgomery rentals of the world.

Let's swap Mongtomerys - Jordan for Mason.
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Mo said it's all about pitching, pitching, and more pitching at the trade deadline. He needs to get best player available and use that as a bargaining chip elsewhere, if needed.
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So I have been hearing that the Tampa Bay Rays are interested in Jack Flaherty and Jordan Montgomery.
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Montgomery and Flaherty pitching well lately should boost their value. We should get solid players for them.
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But we must understand that Mozeliak has nothing to fear because he’s protected by DeWitt. And Marmol has nothing to fear because he’s protected by Mozeliak. And DeWitt has nothing to fear because he owns the team.
What a cozy, convenient arrangement this is.

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Don't be so sure. Teams know we are desperate and there's no team control after this year. They're both rentals.
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Don't be so sure. Teams know we are desperate and there's no team control after this year. They're both rentals.
Doesn't matter - sellers market.

If you can't get THIS right, you serve truly no purpose. There are enough teams in contention that need SP that there's no excuse at all to not leverage a very strong return.
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Doesn't matter - sellers market.

If you can't get THIS right, you serve truly no purpose. There are enough teams in contention that need SP that there's no excuse at all to not leverage a very strong return.
What DJ said, sellers always do well at trade deadlines. Wellll except us. But, we have the best hand so they really have to **** it up
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Doesn't matter - sellers market.

If you can't get THIS right, you serve truly no purpose. There are enough teams in contention that need SP that there's no excuse at all to not leverage a very strong return.
Mo hasn't shown the ability to make good decisions in the best of times, I have no confidence in his ability to make good decisions under pressure.
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